Monday, 21 September 2009

The Credible Witness.

I often hear the term “credible witness” when someone is talking about the topic of UFO sightings. It would seem that there are two categories for witnesses and these are credible and unreliable. Why is this when pretty much every witness report is thrown into doubt by even those within the UFO community? I have often heard incredulity from fellow researchers when the topic is being discussed, even (and sometimes, especially!!) when it comes to other researchers. There seems to be an underlying game of one upmanship within circles which to me is utterly ridiculous, but then some people are terribly set in their way’s I have discovered.

I want to discuss the “credible witness” and the “unreliable witness” here. I want to try and decipher who is who and why. Police officers, Pilots, Radar operators and people from the scientific community who report sightings have more weight than most of us for a reason; the fact that they can retain information and are obviously intelligent.

However your normal “ordinary” witness in the street has a harder time being believed and is therefore probably more reluctant to come forward and tell of their experiences for the fear of ridicule rather than the police officers, scientists and pilots whose careers could be put at risk for reporting their sightings. Also a lot of people don’t even know who to approach to tell. There is also the underlying fear that someone dressed in black will come and tell you that they will hurt your nearest and dearest if you tell anyone. It’s hard to believe in this day and age but true. Most people just think that no one will listen so what is the point.

Why is it so ridiculous and who made it so? Thousands of UFO’s are reported every single year by all and sundry, what’s the big deal and who say’s Jo Regular isn’t reliable? Have we just assumed this or have we been told? Are we setting up our own barometer of believability and if we are … why?

As some of you may know I have an interest in psychology and for me to believe what a person has witnessed, I particularly rely on the way the ordinary “Jo Regular” recounts their experience, I had a close encounter myself in 1996 and this has really made me more interested in the ordinary folk rather than other’s who’s only difference to me is that they can sign your passport photograph. If it happened to me, an ordinary mother at the age of 26, then it can happen to anybody…. and it does on a regular basis.

I have talked to many people about the subject and I can only recall one incident where someone flat out refused to believe I had seen a UFO, the rest usually have their own tales to tell. I am regularly told stories by friends, neighbours and associates alike who have all seen something they could not explain, sometimes I have been able to proffer an alternative explanation but some of them I have to put into the category of Unidentified Flying Object, or should I even dare to create another alternative name for this phenomena (which seems to be popular these days) and that would be an UMA “Unidentified Manoeuvring Objects” as a lot of them seem to jump around the sky without doing very much flying at all.

To be a credible witness there are certain criteria you must fulfil:

CREDIBLE WITNESS - A credible witness is one who is competent to give evidence, and is worthy of belief. In deciding upon the credibility of a witness, it is always pertinent to consider whether he is capable of knowing the thing thoroughly about which he testifies. 2. Whether he was actually present at the event. 3. Whether he paid sufficient attention to qualify himself to be a reporter of it; and 4. Whether he honestly relates the affair fully as he knows it, without any purpose or desire to deceive or suppress or add to the truth.

Now that is the legal definition of a credible witness so what does this mean to ufology and how does it relate?

It used to be the case that only certain individual’s accounts would be taken seriously, Let us take police officers as an example. It would seem that even they do not count anymore. Alan Godfrey and Tony Dodd who sadly passed away recently, both of them extremely good police officers in their own right and both of them are UFO witnesses. Now they were credible up to a point but then they came under scrutiny and for some people are no longer considered worthy proponents in the field. There are credible police witnesses in the states, you can find no end of police officers reporting their sightings if you can dedicate a couple of hours to a Google fest, yet if any of them were to ditch their career and go into the subject full time, they would instantly be struck off the list. So it seems that you can be a credible witness but only up to a point and depending on your behaviour afterwards! Oh and lets not forget the money angle... The cries of “I can hear the cash registers ringing already” every time someone tries to get something into the public arena... If the media can’t be trusted to take the subject seriously then we have to take it upon ourselves to present a reasonable case and to be fair I don’t know many people who’ve made very much money from their books if any at all. As for doing it for the fame.. who are we going to be famous to???

So there are two distinct camps in the police community as far as UFO sightings are concerned. If you have a sighting, make a report and go about your life as if nothing has happened, then you are a good witness, but if it has such an effect on you that you become embroiled in the subject and dedicate your time to it, then you are obsessed and suddenly find yourself on the unreliable list. For those of us who have had experiences, it leaves you in little doubt that something incredible is going on, it changes the way you view life in general and sets you on a hunt for the truth. Exactly how are you supposed to behave when you have seen something that quite literally blows your mind? As if nothing has happened is not really an option, and it’s a good job too, otherwise this article wouldn’t be being written and I would still be cooking chips for a living.

So what makes a good witness? Someone who knows about aeronautics? Nuclear Physics? Astronomy? Well that’s pretty much the case. If you have a career which involves any work in the scientific community or possibly the civil service but then only some parts of it… then you have a good chance of being on the winning team. Even so, there aren’t many scientists who will come forward and say that they think that some of the events reported are worthy of further investigation because they cannot be explained by any methods known to them and even fewer who will come forward and admit that they have witnessed something themselves. If they do they are in danger of being ridiculed and their career prospects compromised. Yet there does seem to be small percentages who are gathering together who are looking into the phenomena even if it could mean trouble for their careers.

If we look at the disclosure project which to me is invaluable, every one of them has seen something and knows it is of extra terrestrial design. It is a risky business though as I’m sure you will know each one of them has had their issues to deal with since coming out into the open with their knowledge. Let’s take Phil Schneider for example... strangled himself with a catheter apparently..... How?. So i suppose in a certain sense the disclosure project is pushing onward with some risk but how can that many scientists be eradicated without everyone going “err... hang on a minute.... maybe these guys are onto something if they all meet mysterious ends.” Soon enough the conspiracy documentaries will start rolling out with every tiny detail analysed to the minutia whether correct or assumed, drawing more attention to the project than Dr Steven Greer and associates could ever have dreamed of... It’s a bit self defeatist really so they continue the denial and the ridicule. So you can understand why people might be backwards in coming forwards.

July the 9th 1947 saw the first coming together of official sources to debunk the claims of any or all UFO reports that might be given. The FBI were informed that Army Air force Intelligence was using “all of it’s scientists” to determine whether or not such a phenomenon could exist and to ascertain whether the phenomenon was in fact celestial activity or if they were being designed, manufactured and controlled. Within just a few weeks they had concluded that this phenomenon was not imaginary or natural weather conditions, in fact they concluded that these things were actually flying around! These objects could travel at ridiculous speeds, change shape and change direction without banking or stopping, seemingly impossible feats considering the technology we were using at the time. I’ve heard people say “well the military are 50 years ahead of what you or I know with their technological advancements, everything you see in the sky is a secret military project” Well in that case we should be seeing some of that technology by now wouldn’t you think? Just look at these examples of objects tracked on radar showing their speed fifty years or more ago by totally credible witnesses:

Summer 1948 Goose bay, Labrador; USAF and RCAF radar independently tracked unidentified target travelling at 9000 mph at an altitude of 60,000 ft.

October 15th, 1948 Japan, Air Force F-61 night interceptor tracked and saw visually UFO shaped like “a rifle bullet.” On one pass, F61 got close enough to see silhouette 20-30ft long. It’s speed was between 200mph and accelerated to 1200 mph at an altitude of 5000ft rising to 6,000 ft.

Autumn 1949 Key atomic Base, Korea. Five UFO’s in formation clocked covering 300 miles in less than 4 minutes at an average speed of 4,500 mph.

Now from Officers and pilots reporting manouvreability: 28th June 1947 two pilots and two intelligence officers reported seeing a bright light source zig- zag with bursts of speed and make a 90 degree turn.

18th November 1948, Washington D.C. Lt Harry g. Coombes, Lt Kenwood W. Jackson pilots had a Dogfight with a glowing oval UFO which put on bursts of speed up to an estimated 600 mph.

3rd November 1948, Baja Mexico. Capt. William Donnelly, Pilot saw four discs “cavorting” in flight.

8th March 1950, Dayton Ohio. Two F-51 Pilots and several airline pilots saw a round UFO observed from the ground, tracked on radar, climbed away from interceptors through the clouds.

12th July 1952, Chicago Illinois. A captain and a weather officer watched a reddish object with small white body lights made a 180 degree turn and disappeared over horizon.

Ten years ago a Gallup poll concluded that 71% of the United States’ population believed that the government was covering up information regarding UFO’s and a 2002 Roper poll for the Sci-Fi channel believed that the government were covering up information but there were more people believing that the UFO’s were actually extraterrestrial craft. Around 70% believed the government were not sharing all that it knew about UFO’s or extraterrestrial life but 56 % thought UFO’s were real and that 48% believed that aliens had visited Earth or were here living among us. Those polls conducted only relate to the populace of America.

This briefly leads me to the extraterrestrial hypothesis. There are many among us who have claimed to have met with and talked to ET’s and many claim to have been experimented on by these creatures. The stories are largely the same which in one camp denotes believability but in the other camp they are believed to be the product of social conditioning, wishful thinking and delusion. If there are ET’s visiting this planet why have they not been captured is a frequently asked question. The answers are varied. Maybe they are too clever to be caught, they visit through interdimensional means and do not actually exist on this Earth plane, or they have been captured and we are kept in the dark about it etc.etc.. How many times have we heard that ET’s live at various military installations? How many pieces of footage have we all seen depicting incubation tanks and interrogations for example? All of them are dismissed largely, but how are we to know for sure when such secrecy and lies shroud the subject? Even reports such as Grudge, Sign and Blue book have now been for the most part relegated to the category of disinformation but why? These reports are now decades old and once again, if they were there to distract our attention from military craft, then we would be seeing that kind of manoeuvrability and technology now.

When we look at alien abduction literature, the motives behind these visitations are as varied as the crafts described in reports. Explanations run from benevolent beings coming here to make us see the error of our ways and subsequently change the way we live and love, genetic assimilation for the survival of their species, genetic manipulation for the survival of our species, food for the visitors and general scientific experimentations on ourselves and other species on this planet as in the case of human and cattle mutilations. Some seem to think they are operating a cruel to be kind philosophy as most abductees report their intentions are benevolent and that they are expressing concern about human survival, with a large proportion of abductees reporting having been shown images of the planet blowing up and being told this is your future if you do not amend your ways. Another idea thrown into the arena is that it is ourselves travelling back in time with the same warnings, I love this theory but I get my brain in a knot trying to figure out the eventualities or motives and ten million other questions!

They seem to be expressing the need for us to learn to love one another regardless of colour or creed whilst reportedly having no emotional capacity themselves? Various hypotheses have been brought forward but there is a tendency to disbelieve anyone who has had an encounter with an ETI because there has never been any evidence other than hearsay that they exist, yet the objects we see in the sky on an almost daily basis appear to be intelligently controlled so who’s flying them?

Another hypothesis is that this planet is a sort of celestial Ark and we are a storehouse for all life in the cosmos with genetic coding in place to be activated individually when the time is right for each of us to develop on an evolutionary basis, having physically developed as much as we are able. Spiritual growth seems to be the order of the day which would tie in with the need to adopt a more environmentally friendly way of living. Your guess is as good as mine.

But the lack of physical evidence leaves us to merely speculate on who, why or what these sightings and interactions are. Mass hallucinations, Fantasy prone personalities, Drunkenness and drugs? Not in the case of sightings where visual contact is made by pilots and radar operators in the same instance. Yet if the pilots are confused as to what exactly it is they are scrambling after, how are the rest of us meant to find out?. Simple answer is… we are not. Yet we see things often and come under a massive amount of doubt and ridicule for saying we have and in some of cases we are told to stay quiet about what we have seen. When asked why I didn’t report what was happening to myself and my companions to the police I say that we would not have been taken seriously and if it takes a police officer several hours and even day’s to respond to a real physical event, do we seriously believe that they would have been with us in a matter of minutes? I think not. Also at the time, we were all so caught up in what was happening we could only think to phone a friend who was a believer and did not consider ringing any other parties. If we were to have informed another body then what would have happened then? No one really knows how people are treated in such circumstances and although the extraterrestrial exposure law is an American law, you can be sure that the same rules apply, in a nutshell, it just doesn’t seem worth the added trauma.

( to read the exposure law)

Any other physical evidence is always open to interpretation, especially with today’s technological advancements in photography and film making. I myself am guilty of dismissing most images and films, it’s almost impossible to say whether a photograph is the real deal or not now and so anything that is reported with at least this evidence attached goes straight into the bin. Even when physical evidence is collected and collated by those dedicated enough to get out and about to collect it, what do you do with it afterwards? Make your report and hope to be believed? Physical trace evidence has been collected in the past, ground impressions, burned and desiccated soil, broken and burned foliage, increased radiation levels and magnetic anomalies and traces. Take Rendlesham forest as an example, even now we are being told that it was a lighthouse, the troops were drunk, it was Christmas, they were unreliable witnesses due to alcohol. Now I can’t speak for everyone, but I have drunk more than my fair share of hooch in my time and not once have I hallucinated a UFO with my friends! Can you imagine the amount of sightings being reported every Saturday night over city centres.. especially at the end of the month when everyone gets paid. These guys’ were. Also having visited Rendlesham a couple of times myself, you would have to be a lunatic to think you could get away with the lighthouse theory but most people will never visit the place so can only take “expert” testimony as truth.

So whilst most academics ignore the subject, some actually embrace it. In 1998 Peter Sturrock, professor of applied physics at Stamford University organised a panel of scientists who were supported by the Society for Scientific Exploration to review the matter. The panel which consisted of nine physical scientists responded to presentations by eight investigators of UFO reports. They concluded that some of the reports which were accompanied by physical evidence were worthy of further scientific investigation but that no known laws of physics were being violated."It may be valuable to carefully evaluate UFO reports to extract information about unusual phenomena currently unknown to science." To be credible to the scientific community "such evaluations must take place with a spirit of objectivity and a willingness to evaluate rival hypotheses" that has so far been lacking.” Although they concluded that the ET hypothesis is not worthy of investigation due to lack of physical evidence.

( for full report)

Leaving the physical debate to one side, there are other academics who are interested UFO enthusiast subcultures and folklore from a purely anthropological perspective and some feel the subject could provide new insights into various fields of psychology, sociology and communications yet there is no public body or government who wishes to fund or support UFO research feeling that the Condon report (1969!!) settled the matter and that any further UFO data is not worth researching. Yet absence of study of this subject increases scepticism and therefore strongly affects anyone’s willingness to begin to investigate the subject by scientific means, any or all physical evidence being kept under wraps by those powers that be even though some in the scientific arena think there is enough evidence to warrant further studies without this. Who would they get to fund it?

The negative conclusion of the Condon report seems to have been particularly damaging to the likelihood of any scientists involving themselves seriously in UFO investigations but the conclusion was written by Condon who had already expressed his disdain of the topic long before the investigation reached it’s end so in most cases it is dismissed as unworthy.

Even when the majority of UFO’s become IFO’s it is still only a majority, there are still a small percentage of aerial phenomena which cannot be readily explained, whether this is 1% or 10% it doesn’t really matter, what matters is that there is most definitely a small amount of cases which cannot be explained away no matter how hard anyone tries. Because of the OSA we know we have to wait a ridiculous amount of time before we can read the reports of strange goings on in the skies which have been witnessed by our “credible witnesses” and even then they are becoming more cunning about how they can keep us from gaining these reports. With the travesty which has come to light about documents being kept in areas where asbestos has been used, they are of course saving us from a fate worse than death by protecting us from this terrible substance, if you ask them…to quickly shredding reports before certain dates when laws come into effect then where do we get most of our sighting reports from? With every shred of evidence being hidden from us by the military and associates, we only have our beloved Jo Regular in the street to speak up when they see something. However unreliable a person might appear to be, with any amount of knowledge of human behavioural psychology, there are markers for you to look out for in how to determine a true story, yet we still have the issue of “yes they believe what they saw was unusual so of course they will tell it that way.” But what about people who claim to be abductees? Are they really all suffering from psychosis? If this is the case then there are many areas of science which are shamefully far behind in their studies of this phenomena, which some of us, if not all know for sure is really going on. If seeing ufos is a manifestation of an illness where are the studies? Where is the wonder drug? Thre's billions of dollars/sterling to be made from it.

I conclude that in the present climate one could be considered to be unreliable until undertaking some kind of academic qualification to prove ones intellect and use it retrospectively. But on the other side of the coin, if you are already in the credible gang it takes no time at all to be relegated to the division of unreliable witness from originally being credible if you make one dodgy remark it will be brought up immediately regardless of however many irrefutable points you’ve made!! Ad hominem.

If not having a university education means you cannot be a reliable witness, I wouldn't believe a word I've said if I were you... well at least not until I've got my degree...

Rendlesham Forest 30 year Reunion.

Organizers of the 30th Anniversary of the Rendlesham Forest UFO Incident are asking for all fellow USAF staff and any other witnesses, who had anything to do with the December 1980 incident, to attend the 30-year reunion next year in England. It will be held at RAF Bentwaters and will attempt to reconstruct the most complete picture of the incident ever.

The organizers are looking for anybody involved in the incident who would like to come over to England and/or or go on tape talking about the incident. This includes USAF/RAF staff, UFO researchers and witnesses in the area, as well as those who have worked on previous documentaries on the incident.

We are looking for anybody who knows anything about what happened, not just the main players, right down to the person who was in the command post on the nights of the events. We would welcome any assistance in getting to the bottom of a 30-year mystery.

Some former USAF Security Police personnel who were assigned to the Weapons Storage Area during that period have also reported UFO activity at the WSA. We are seeking information from those persons as well. We are looking for sponsors to help put this together as well. If you would like to become involved, either as a witness or a sponsor, please contact us at or check our blog at:

In The Beginning....... There were lights

I've always had an interest in ufos, I don't ever remember a time when I didn't, even when I saw one when I was 12 bringing the washing in with my mum I just accepted it. The first one I saw was a light very high in the sky zipping around at incredible speeds and changing direction in an instant, it flew the way a fly flies. I started to read Eric von Danikens books when I was 14 ish and was fascinated by them, my mum had all of the books he'd written and I read them all one after the other. As I grew up I was always looking at the sky and bought ufo magazine from being around 19. my friends and I would talk about them and once chased Venus for 20 miles in my car all the way to Menwith hill!!! We'd often go there and sit and look at the stars hoping to see something and one night we spent three hours getting incredibly excited over someones security light on a hill in the distance! Never in a million years would I have imagined that one day I would get to witness something so incredible that it would change my life forever.

It was October the 4th 1996. My partner (at the time) Steve, myself and my son had arranged to go to Wales for the weekend. We'd hired a cottage in Glyn Ciriog and invited His sister Danya and her son Joseph and their uncle John along too. Most mundane details have gone from my mind now, the journey there and the daytime on Friday. I can remember walking to the shop with the kids and Steve and Danya and not feeling too good. I was edgy and irritated by Danya from some reason I have forgotten now.

My next memory is it's nighttime, well it's dark, it could have been anytime really but we were all in the garden sorting wood out for the fire. I can remember this because we had a particularly large part of a tree we were jumping on to try and snap it but all that happened is we bounced off it, it was funny and we made a game out of it for a while.We must have had some food by this time and I remember going upstairs to unpack my things, I was in the bedroom with my bag on the bed when Steve started shouting me. It sounded urgent and the kids were screaming and so I thought something was wrong and ran downstairs. I found Joseph and my son Louis just playing about, relieved I turned to Steve and asked what was wrong.

He ushered me outside to a wall on our right and pointed out into the sky and said "look at that". I looked, all I could see for miles was thick dark cloud, he kept insisting and eventually I saw a tiny flicker of light. I said "It's lightning" he replied "no it's not keep watching" as I looked on it happened again, then again and again. It was just a little flicker in the clouds which repeated itself over and over. By now it was obvious that it had a uniformed pattern to the way it was lighting up. We called everyone else out after a little while and we stood and watched.

I've no idea how long we were there until it stated to get bigger and we realized it was coming our way. It didn't just zoom over to us in a straight line, it kind of zigzagged, like it was following the contours of a valley or river maybe. But sure enough it moved to us at a steady pace. By this time we were all excited, I'm not sure what the children thought was going on. Eventually it was above the field directly in front of the house and we'd moved up the garden by now. It was a spectacular sight. We couldn't see the actual craft because it was in the clouds but I remember thinking how low they were. This object was only a couple of hundred feet at most above us. It had a large round central light which was blue ish white and had lines of light that were rotating coming from the middle to the outer edge which also was lit but they were rotating in opposite directions. It looked like the underneath of a mushroom but through the clouds the lights were rippling and gave it the effect of being almost like a jelly fish. The lights in the cloud made them look like mashed potato, highlighting the different densities of the clouds. I seem to remember noticing a red light above the white lights but I'm not 100% sure on that point now.

I can remember us all stood as a group in front of a small hedge that bordered the field that was in front of the house, to our left was a small wall and behind us there was a patch of ground with a chain linked fence bordering the property, behind the chain linked fence was a small copse of trees. As we stood there watching the craft moved over and was hanging directly above us. Steve had gone into the house to ring our housemates Mark and John to tell them but there was no one in so he left a message on the answer phone and came back out. While Steve was on the phone I'd noticed that the sheep in the field in front of us were all lying down and were quiet. I don't remember hearing any external noises at all. Not even a hum from the craft above us.... just silence apart from our excited chatter.

As we stood there something made me turn and look behind me. Behind the chain linked fence there was another object, it was maybe 10 feet high and was a sphere. It was shrouded in a swirling mist and pulsed a grey ish white light... on... off every other second or so. I turned to everyone and said "ooh look there's another one" and everyone turned around, looked at it and said "Oh yeah" with mild interest then promptly started looking straight back up at the one above us. It was gone from our minds instantly. At no point did anyone think "Oh shit! they've landed"!!!

I can remember standing with the hedge in front of me and my son to my right, we'd tried to tell the kids that there was nothing to worry about, the lights were from a tractor and were reflecting off the bottom of the clouds. This might have worked for a while.. but not for long. My son suddenly started tugging on my clothes and I looked at him, he was terrified. He said with his little ashen face and really wide eyes "Mummy, mummy, a hand came through the hedge and touched my foot. It was not my imagination... I saw it with my eyes"! Still nothing registered. I turned to Steve and said, "come on, lets get them in they're getting scared" So off we trotted back to the house to get them inside.

As soon as we walked through that door everyone just went straight back to being normal... Danya and John went in the living room to watch TV... and Steve started doing the dishes and the kids started playing. I was stood there agog! You'd think we'd just been watching fireworks and the display was over! I said to Steve "I'm going back out" and off I marched right to the bottom of the garden and stood right underneath it. Now you would think that the fact that there was a craft on the ground and a hand coming through the hedge would have registered in my head... but it did not. I still can't get my head around that.

So there I am on my own a good hundred yards from the house standing by myself underneath a craft that must have been 60 feet across completely oblivious to the one on the ground behind me, stood in front of the same hedge that a hand had poked through to touch my sons foot. I can remember thinking "Ok.. now what"? I was awestruck and was full of wonder and amazement. Suddenly I heard something running towards me from my right, the sound was of two feet running quickly... it sounded like when a child runs across their bedroom quickly to grab something after bed time.... whatever it was bumped into me, brushed across my back as it went dragging my jumper with it. I didn't look, I didn't think, I just ran for my life in absolute terror. I can only remember taking three steps and leaping from the raised bit of the garden onto the patio in front of the kitchen door but realistically that would not be possible as I was so far away. I think it's quite safe to say that was blind panic. I shot into the kitchen shivering and shaking and trying to tell Steve without letting the kids hear. He just turned to look at the clock on the cooker and said "Well you haven't been out there long so you haven't had any missing time" like it was the most normal thing in the world.

I was a mess. I made him shut the doors and lock them, close the curtains.. all that last defence stuff even though I knew that didn't make any difference!!! I can remember sitting in the middle of the bed shaking, not daring to even put my feet on the floor in case something was under the bed, I wouldn't even go to the toilet on my own.I can remember putting the kids to bed and hiding out in the bedroom, I left the door open so I could see the hallway and my sons bedroom door. Steve looked out of the bedroom window once and he didn't say it had gone which he would have if it had, he didn't say anything, he just closed the curtain again. Then we went to bed and went to sleep.

The next day was dreadful. Everyone was arguing, Danya was screaming at me in the kitchen while I was making some sandwiches, I turned and told her to shut her mouth or else... so she went outside and continued to carry on hysterically at me through the window. John was being foul too. We were all in a state. John and Danya went out in the car with the two boys and me and Steve went for a walk.

We walked into the village and saw someone stood outside the pub so we tentatively asked him if anyone ever saw lights in the sky in the area. He just laughed and said "if you want magic mushrooms they grow in that field over there". We didn't bother asking anyone else. We walked towards a hill we could see in the distance with a solitary gnarly looking tree on it. When we got to the top and looked around there was nothing to see for miles. We were hoping to see a town or anything at all because we thought 2well, maybe it was lasers from the roof of a nightclub or something" hahaha! Bloody good lasers if they were. As we stood there I felt something on my leg so I looked to see a massive ginger tom cat rubbing itself on me and purring it's head off! We were in the middle of nowhere! where the hell had the cat come from???? After realizing there was nothing to see we headed back to the house and got out maps. The nearest town was Wrexham and that was 16 miles away!

John and Danya came back and the day grew worse, Steve ended up ringing to book tickets for the coach home, the thought of being in a car with those two was too much to bear. He booked the tickets and a taxi for 4.30 am and we sneaked off and left them there on their own. They'd been so horrible we didn't care, we didn't even leave a note.

In hindsight I can see that this was their reaction to what had happened, but what I couldn't understand was why it was directed at me. My reaction to it was strong. I was terrified all the time. If I wanted to walk into a room and the door was shut I'd bang the door wide open fast so that if anything was hiding behind it I'd knock it senseless. I can also remember running up stairs and realizing the light wasn't on and running back down to switch it on before going back up there again. I couldn't sleep with the light off for years after this.Steve and I split up after a while, I'd turned into a nervous wreck. I got my own house with my son and started to build a new life. The only problem was, was that I couldn't stop thinking about it. Some day's i'd think about it all day. Then because I was living on my own I daren't go to bed. I had a small window above the door in my front room and I'd sit looking out of it for hours looking for them... I don't know where I went in my head... I just used to sit and stare. Eventually I started to take amphetamines to stay awake all night and would still just look and stare. When my son was with his dad I was out partying all the time, anything to make myself feel good, and not be at home on my own. I took it to the extreme though, lost lots of weight, wouldn't eat... I think deep down I was trying to make myself disappear. No matter how much I tried to distract myself, every single day I saw those lights and heard those footsteps. It's safe to say I lost the plot and nearly lost my son. Things got so bad I eventually decided I couldn't cope anymore and my son would be better off with his dad anyway and I took a lot of pills and hoped I'd die. I'd pretty much been hoping I wouldn't wake up every Monday after a heavy weekend. Thankfully I did wake up, I made some new friends but was still a mess. One day I found out I was pregnant with my oldest daughter. That was what saved me. I sorted myself out and made a nice home, she was what i needed to keep me from continuing in this death slide on self destruct. My nights were taken up looking after her and I hardly thought about the ufos for a while.

I first talked about this in 2005 on the 25th June..... That was the biggest thing for me. Talking to other people about it and them taking me seriously. Even though this event terrified me and forced a massive paradigm shift onto me, I would not go back in time and change a thing. Actually maybe I would, maybe I'd stand my ground and look around to see what it was that touched me. Maybe I missed an opportunity for contact? But then looking back on my life there are many strange memories that I have that seem to make sense to me now. I have a feeling this was not the first time this sort of thing had happened and maybe that's why I wasn't afraid to go back out on my own? Somehow though I think that our behaviour that night was modified. Not manipulated but just to the point where we weren't afraid. How come we all forgot about the smaller craft on the ground? why didn't the fact that my son saw a hand come through the hedge register as it should have? He told me recently that at first he thought it was part of the hedge moving because it looked like twigs but then as it came forward he saw it was a hand. He suffered terrible panic attacks as a child after this and when I tried to hold him he would say "get off me your fingers are like twigs" and once he scrabbled around on the floor in a panic saying to me " I want my mum, where's my mum, can we go home now, I want to go home" He slept with me a lot because he heard strange noises in his head and felt like he was falling backwards through his bed and if he did he would die. I've had this myself and it's hypnagogia which seems to be a very common thing for experiencers. Even though I have looked into the reasons why people suffer from it, there are no conclusions to be found. I even consulted Dr Simon Sherwood who sent me through the study he had done, he found no real and solid conclusions for why it happens or what it is.