Gary Heseltine attacks Phil Mantle for liking a post on the Rendlesham UFO group.
I was sent this screenshot today... Gary Heseltine is attacking Phil Mantle for 'liking' a post on the Rendlesham UFO Group. He posted this on his page.
"ONLINE PERSONAL VERBAL ABUSE: There is one thing that sadly the creation of social media has unleased on the world and that is the emergence of the troll phenomena. People who post verbal personal abuse at others when they disagree with the other person's viewpoint. These people should be universally condemned by ordinary decent human beings and FB is clearly failing those that use its platform. These people need to be policed by the FB platform. People have committed suicide, teenagers bulled by online abuse on the many forms of social media that now dominate the modern world. People need to step up and openly condemn those that would post personal abusive verbal messages. I don't mind if people have different opinions to me but I will not accept those that dish out personal verbal abuse. FB needs to get a grip and work with the police to bring genuine criminal legislation to pass. They are five years behind properly policing their own platform. So, it is in that context that I post the following image because ANYONE who supports online verbal abuse either directly or indirectly with the trolls on any subject is no friend of mine on this platform. For over two years I have been trolled almost daily with verbal personal abuse by a small number of people (around 50) on FB simply because I dared to support Larry Warren, the original military whistleblower of the Rendlesham Forest UFO incident from late December 1980. As a result they attack UFO Truth Magazine and over the last year anything connected with the upcoming release of the RFI themed documentary Capel Green. Now I can take this abuse but many people, young people in particular who endure such abuse may crumble and succumb to the constant hate that they receive. People need to realise that online personal verbal abuse is WRONG in a civilised society and should condemn all forms of this vile personal abuse rather than sit on the fence, often fearful that they too will become a target for these online abusers. People around the world need to wake up and come together to make a stand against those that would verbally abuse others. They do not realise that by engaging in dialogue with these online abusers that indirectly they are giving them a message saying to them it's OK and so they continue. I am telling you that It is not OK for people to verbally abuse others and to ignore this trend we do so at our peril. Like I said above those that interact with trolls are no friends of mine and will be unfriended on this platform forthwith. GH."
This is exactly what Nigel Mortimer did. "If you are friends of theirs I am deleting you". Also ironic he should mention suicide when Warren's intention was to have me kill myself or to have me murdered. Handing out my home address while people made constant threats, especially Warren. You now choose to be concerned about bullying? YOU are the bully now. Warren has vanished from Facebook, so YOU are the bully.
You should have kept your nose out of it all. This was about Warren and I challengerd HIM. YOU decided to make this your business a long time after I started revealing the evidence. Now you are calling others the bully! This is MY LIFE and YOU made it YOUR business when it had absolutely NOTHING to do with you!!! YOU attacked me and started spreading LIES about my mental health, telling people I am a heroin addict and I abuse my children and live in filth!! You say I LOVE him and moved him in to have an affair with him!! You are insane.
You run on gossip, you have literally NEVER been anywhere near my home, you don't KNOW that!! You listened to a liar. You are disgusting.
All you have done Gary Heseltine is finger point at people for swearing and asking reasonable questions, all while calling them trolls. Anyone who asks a question is a troll. The reason is simple, the questions being asked, they reveal the lies. Every time Warren is asked a question he gives a different answer. Every time you ask questions the answers are accepted without checking them. You accept anything Warren says.
It is interesting to see that in the show Tino did with Warren, Warren gives certain answers then months later when you Gary, did the Facebook video, the answers change!
Below: Tino asks Warren the questions we have been asking, apart from the John Lennon Photo and the Hells Angels. Warren tells more lies on top of already debunked lies. Tino's Question Time;
The video you did the other day only proved that Warren knew Peter's sister.
What about Adrian saying he left Warren after taking cameras off people and then left him there and went off with Halt? Why doesn't he tell the same story as Warren? Why does Warren say they were together until 4.30am? According to Warren they are together all night and have one hell of an adventure.
Why does Adrian say he was debriefed alone and was told he had to say it was the lighthouse and if they didn't bullets are cheap. Warren goes on about a huge epic debriefing where they were told all about ufo's and shown classified footage and had their security clearance upgraded. Why doesn't Adrian say that??? I have seen Warren deny this ever took place, at the MUFON 2010 conference he states he NEVER said any of that, yet it is his book!!!
In fact there are so many clips of him contradicting himself, I put together two hours of him doing that and read out the chapter in HIS BOOK where he tells everyone what went on in the underground base with the alien talking to him telepathically. The book that the publisher discontinued publishing because of lies. A book Warren said He asked to be pulled too. Well it was suspended in October, in November Warren said pull it too, AFTER it was suspended. He now says he asked for the book to be pulled, but when someone asked Capel Green (the Facebook page) if Warren still stood by his book, the answer was 100% YES. So he stands by the underground base bit then? Skip to one minute in in the video below.
The show I created with clips of Warren lying and contradicting himself.
I have to ask Gary Heseltine to address these things;
The John Lennon photo
Duane Carleton outed Warren as a fraud with his professional analysis of the jacklet Warren gave him that turned out to be a forgery. What about Duane Gary?
Why does he say he Co-Signed Metallica? Michael Alago signed them.
What about the A10 photo? What about the fact that is fake and was uploaded by himself onto his facebook. What about the fact you can clearly see him in the reflection.
What about the Hells Angels? They went to his home after seeing him flash unearned patches on a live YouTube stream and took them from him. That is when you started doing radio shows telling people I love him and flipped because I couldn't have him! Is that the best you have got? That is your EVIDENCE. As a police officer you would or rather SHOULD know that is hearsay, in the real world we call that A LIE. Just a thought, did you think that had something to do with me? I even have Hells Angels under control with my mind powers?
Just a note to let you know the stamp on the flyers PETER gave Warren have the words "From the estate of Helen Wheels" that estate did not exist until AFTER she died. That is what an estate is. Here is the definition;
" After someone dies, someone (called the deceased person's 'executor' or 'administrator') must deal with their money and property (the deceased person's 'estate'). They need to pay the deceased person's taxes and debts, and distribute his or her money and property to the people entitled to it."
Helen's friend did NOT take that flyer around for it to be signed and what the hell happened to Andy Warhol? How come he forgot how to spell Campbell's on the can of soup he allegedly drew, but spelled it CAMBELLS??? Likely that Audrey Hepburn would be there too? No.
Then there is this show, and it was a show. You squirm and cringe, everyone looks like they want to tell him to shut the hell up rather than being impressed by his fascinating and colourful life. It is actually both hilarious and utterly outrageous. PA for the beach boys.... Wow! aged 18!
He says in your video Gary that he forced himself backstage and that is how he got into the biz. We know this is true because of Duane Carleton's revelations of him. He knew Warren way back in the mid 90's when Warren forced himself backstage and got booted out. So why does he tell Tino that he left the USAF and went straight into Broadcasting School and that his father got him the loan because he didn't get in on his qualifications from school and that's for sure. But wait... He said in a Facebook video that Peter made the mistake in their book.
He blatantly was NOT a PA for the beach boys. He did NOT get a BA in communications from any university or school.
Those photos of SRV and Plant... Well I will leave the true story of that gig for a future blog. However, simple checks of his claims prove his them to be wrong.
The Introduction in Left at East Gate
He reckons he was ARTIST COORDINATOR for the huge Madison Square Gardens 40th birthday party for Atlantic Records. Are you kidding?? Coordinating the bands???? He then states he was the tour publicist and the following night he was at a gig in NYC where Stevie Ray Vaughan and Robert Plant played, only they played in Connecticut not NYC.
A simple mistake I suppose, after all it was 1988. Funny then that he says he had the SRV jacket signed by SRV in 1986 at the same gig. Oops, it wasn't 1986 as it says on the signed jacket next to the proven to be forged signature on the back of it Warren is wearing in the photos, so he had the jacket signed by SRV then wore it for two years even though they were very good friends? But it was signed at that gig in '86 that didn't happen until '88.
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EDIT: here is the blog to the proof forgery and below is the interview with Warren's old friend from the 90's Duane Carleton. Duane has items Warren gave him, including a personal letter and a forged Rene Martinez letter. He had the jacket analysed, the signature is a forgery.
He can't keep his facts straight because they are not facts. Below is the entire concert video of the bands who Larry organised in his capacity as Artist Coordinator for the Atlantic Records 40th Birthday party at Madison Square Gardens in 1988. He was also Tour Publicist for Robert Plant and Stevie Ray Vaughan and every band ever.
There is a question you keep asking GH... Why haven't the police arrested him? We keep asking the same question! Well I should think it has a lot to do with the fact he took a police helmet to ground zero from our local constabulary because HE HAS FAMILY IN THE FORCE. Saying someone is innocent because they haven't been charged is rubbish. You ought to know that as an ex detective.
Now I have a photo of him with the helmet and a copy of the video and other posts stating this, I can send that to my local MP and inform them of corruption can't I. The fact you are an ex transport police officer who runs a forum for police officers who see UFO's might also have something to do with it.
Larry Warren gifts a Police Helmet from Merseyside Police who refused to do anything when my life was being threatened and my home adress passed around while he called me a terrorist and Antifa.
Also he said he was at Ground Zero because of his experience in the steel industry... To be in the pit you had to be there in an official capacity. When did he gain experience in the steel industry? He told Tino he did it at school FOR A WEEK and found it wasn't for him, so how was he there as an official advisor?
What was his job as a representative of the steel industry? Was he examining the remains for the investigation? Then he had to write reports yes? Use a computer? Have a significant education and then job experience?
If he was there in his capacity as an expert in the steel industry, not recovery, how did he recover the bodies of nine firefighters found in a pocket?
Photo shown in the recent video. This is supposed to be evidence of Warren Investigating in his capacity as an expert in the steel industry. in the immediate aftermath.
Larry Warren at Spies and Lies Conference Liverpool telling the audience he was at Ground Zero
Why does the photo show him as a tourist? What was the photo of the remains of the towers? Did he say he took that himself,? You didn't state on the video, you just showed it. The image you showed was a cropped version of a larger photo and can be found on google with a simple google search, the colour has been adjusted but it is the same photo.
Unclear if Warren is suggesting he took this himself, it was added to last weeks video without any narrative or caption. Check for yourself with a reverse image search, this is a google image.
Gary Heseltine says he has seen a few of the photos. These are it. We have checked with everyone. The Fire Chief who was actually there, who does not want to get involved says he was not there. He isn't on a single register or public photo and there are many. Everyone who assisted was honoured. Warren was not honoured in any of those registers.
Here he say's his brother was a part of the investigation but says his brother was almost killed by the attacks. Now his brother is CIA?
Warren reckons he visited GZ four times between October and March 2001. In that time machine he had to visit John Lennon I suppose?
Larr Warren's evidence that he met John Lennon just before he flew to the UK to Bentwaters.
Warren aged 19.
Larry Warren's evidence he knew Stevie Ray Vaughan
He also stated he was in the Mick Taylor Band for 2 years. Note in every image he has the same head.
Warren had this sketch when he lived with us. He sold it for £10,000.00 he now say's I am trying to ruin his memorabilia business.
It was May Pang that revealed the sketch to be fake. I just repeated the news. I didn't say he was a forger until this happened. I am not the only person to be saying these things. I have heard that the buyer is now suing Warren.
This is just a few of the issues and questions. It seems to us all that you are now actively engaging in a cover up of Warren's lies Gary. You are telling them with him. You are backing his lies up. You complain about other people swearing, yet Warren is the most abusive and foul mouthed person I have known in my life, which is saying something because I worked on a construction site for many years and have heard it all.
Another lie is that David swears... He has only sworn in private messages and never on his facebook page. David is actually one of those people who really doesn't swear and if he does he apologises, he apologised to Tim for swearing at him in a private message. Private messages have nothing to do with you Gary. People swearing is nothing to do with you Gary and it actually shows how desperate you are by pointing that out, is that really all you have got? None of us claim to be professionals. We are members of the public and ex supporteres of Warren and yourself.
You don't have any counter evidence. In your recent video the evidence of truths have shrunk massively and we can only say that conclusively is that you have proven two things. One is that Warren knew Peter Robbins sister. We know that, nobody said otherwise so why did you spend an inordinate amount of time explaining that? The second is that you are now entirely complicit in The Larry Warren Fraud.
After your video you wrote a post on your facebook page accusing ME or DAVE of creating fake photos to spread around, ypu don't mention us by name, you are too much of a coward to do that. What is so funny about that is that all the photos were downloaded from Warren's own Facebook page! So I or Dave have manipulated images that Warren then put on his own Facebook profile as real? What evidence do you have of that Gary? For someone who professes to be a shit hot detective you are running on a lot of hearsay. Oh sorry, I swore. I hope it doesn't cause any satellites to fall out of the sky, after all, nobody swears do they? It affects your very delicate sensibilities and you finger point like a little child in a playground to the playground monitor. If you really only have that against us, I would give up if I were you. Where is the EVIDENCE of my lies?
Also Warren complains that he is being attacked just after his mother died, well ironic that he should pull up that sympathy card and in the same month as Peter Robbins Father, Aunt and very close friend died, you should choose to launch this attack.
Plenty for you to answer there Gary, but I know you won't ask him any of the questions above. You will continue to exact this total fraud on the UFO community, you will continue to attack everyone in British Ufology over an American, you don't have any support here now. We know you haven't been supported because you shouted your head off at a few people at the Awakening conference in Manchester, June 2018. You shouted at them in front of everyone because they didn't support you when you privately asked them all to support you when you sent a collage of my facebook posts where I swore. You are a misogynist and a bully. You even publicly named and shamed a woman for cancelling her subscription to UFO Truth (decay) Magazine.
Now you are publicly naming and shaming Phil Mantle for liking a post. He hasn't supported me, he hasn't promoted anything, the post he liked wasn't even mine, just a short post of the truth about the film based on Warren.Yes, I have also had my moments with Phil, I didn't demand people unfriend me if they were friends with him and when we saw each other at a conference we were fine together because that is what grown ups do and for your information Phil was the first person to take an interest in our group UFO event along with Russ Callaghan. I was then a part of UFO Data for a while, we have history!
Do you know what the massive shame is? If you had created a documentary about all the other witnesses and it was about their events, that would have been a fantastic concept. To make it about Warren and call it Capel Green, then interview people who were nowhere near Capel Green, it turns it into a fraudulent joke and you are doing that to all those people!! You KNOW Warren has lied and is therefore a liar but you are pretending I love Larry and have flipped.
Gary posted this after finding out the A10 photo was fake and that it wasn't myself or Nick Pope who faked it then Warren somehow uploaded it onto his facebook page in 2013. He KNOWS Warren has lied.
They look up to you Gary, they respect you and you are dragging them to hell with you. None of those people were on Capel Green, some of them were on different times of the year and ALL of them were in different places. I have seen people saying it is good to see the other witnesses supporting Warren's narrative in the film, but Warren is the ONLY person to say anything happened on Capel Green. Also, Capel Green is NOT the field Warren calls Capel Green. It is over the road at the other side. I have a lot more to say on this particular aspect and will do so in a future blog.
Capel Green is over the road behind where Warren says it is.
Below are some of the delightful things said about me and to me by Warren and the people who support him and attend your conference. So if I were you I would shut the hell up about how other people conduct themselves and get on with answering the questions.
Added because here he says he was not a friend of John Lennons
I recorded an interview with Duane Carleton, the main author of this document (below)
The Larry Warren Fraud
At the start of all this, I had nothing apart from my word that something was very wrong with the narrative of Larry Warren. I had to put my entire life out there to prove to you all that he is not telling the truth. Eventually people started seeing the truth and tried to help me uncover the very many problems with his narrative(s). It was truly amazing to me how many people came forward privately to help. Nobody wanted to be on the receiving end of the internets vitriol and so they stayed out of the limelight. I need to thank all of you for your contributions. Every single one of them, including sharing and spreading the word. It was worth it.....
On the 19th of April 2018 I received a message from someone that changed everything. It actually changed nothing at all, but everything at the same time, I just couldn't talk about it. We have tried many different ways to obtain proof, some actual evidence. People were tempted to risk buying something of his and then having it analysed, but nobody quite dare put that much money on the line and why should they? The police should be investigating this, not me and the others.
We tried to force him into a corner to have his military records analysed but instead of taking us up on the offer, he spent thousands of pounds lying to a solicitor to have us all silenced. He is a public figure, making public statements and wants to sue the public when they question what he calls evidence. His deciet was shown to the solicitor and he was dropped by them. If Warren wants to take any of us to court he has to represent himself.
However, the truth is never libel and the last place he wants this is in front of a judge, but that is exactly where I want it. He has made many threats to take us to court and still lies that he has done. No such thing has happened, but in doing this, the hope is that one day that will happen, just because it hasn't yet does not mean that he is innocent as Gary Heseltine keeps saying. He says that the title Conman means convicted. No Gary, it means confidence man or confidence trickster.
For the benefit of Gary Heseltine who has no idea what a con man is
Miracles Do Happen
We tried all we could but we didn't have anything solid. We needed physical evidence, we needed a victim, someone who has bought something and found out it was not genuine. Well we didn't get a victim, although there are many, all we could hope for was that someone will see these blogs and come forward. I know it happens... Because it happened last year. Contrary? Nope.
On the 19th of April 2018 I got a message from one of Larry Warren's old friends. They knew each other from 1993 when Warren lived in Rutland, Vermont, to around 1999/2000 when Warren moved to England.
[Note: IF YOU CLICK THE IMAGES THEY WILL POP UP IN BETTER RESOLUTION]
First Encounter
"Hello. Just this morning a friend of mine sent me a link from Nick Pope talking about the Larry Warren Fraud. It also had a link to a lengthy post from Peter Robbins. I would like to thank you for uncovering Larry the con man. I knew him when he lived in Rutland, VT in the early/mid '90's. I am aware of many fraudulent stories, deceptions and lies I was able to catch him in while he was here. I also have physical proof of his bad forgeries. I was able to stop a few of his memorabilia sales. There are too many stories for me to go into here. If you ever wanted the info, I would be more than happy to provide it. When my wife and I figured out he was full of crap he bad mouthed us and made us out to be the bad guys. I am happy to see the rest of the world is catching on to him. Thank you".
Sound familiar?
Behind The Scenes
Duane and I have been talking since this time while saying nothing in public. The usual tactic is for them to start trying to destroy anyone challenging Warren's narrative. Not wanting to be embroiled in a spat, Duane has spent these past months creating two files of evidence against Larry Warren who lives here in Liverpool. Not only does he have an actual item of memorabilia, he has letters of authentication and also a personal letter from Warren to Duane, who like myself, was his friend until he found out he was lying about who he knew and what he did for a living.
If at First You Don't Succeed...
Those of you who have followed this investigation will know that we were defeated in trying to have his military records examined and compared with his own handwriting. What we needed were actual handwriting samples, not copies of handwriting. Analysts need the original pieces. Warren was unwilling to do this even though we offered to pay for it and have him choose the analyst. We were thwarted then, but not now.
Here is the evidence discussed in my show, Paranormal Mysteries on ANW, on Sunday 14th January 2019. I will embed the show when it is uploaded to YouTube. This show will be repeated Weds 17th Jan at 8pm GMT and Friday 9am GMT. Overseas listeners will need to disguise your IP address to make it appear as if you are in the UK due to the music licensing laws the network is bound to. An app called HOLA will do that for you. Hola download page.
Time Will Tell
Duane Carleton/Larry Warren timeline:
1993
March 9 – Tuesday – DC meets Larry Warren at Marcia B’s Roadhouse while playing the members of Soul Kitchen in Rutland, VT Larry tells DC that he used to work for SRV.
March 12 – Wednesday – Larry attends a Tin Pan Alley show at Paco’s in Rutland, VT. DC and Larry go to breakfast after at Clem’s Country Kitchen
March 25 – Thursday – Larry attends a show w/ The Heavily Bros at Marcia B’s Roadhouse in Rutland, VT. Larry gives DC the leather jacket and with the crown pin on it and tells DC that the jacket was signed by SRV and the pin was the one off SRV’s hat. Larry sang along with XXXX and DC on CSN’s “Long Time”
March 26 – Friday – Larry attends a Tin Pan Alley show at Marcia B’s Roadhouse that was a benefit.
May 22 – Saturday – Larry writes and mails a letter to DC
June 23 – Wednesday – Larry attends a show at Macleod’s Compass Rose in Rutland, VT w/ DC,
June 25 – Friday – June 26 – Saturday – Larry attends a Tin Pan Alley show at Gurey’s in Manchester, VT. Julie attends the Friday gig. On Saturday Larry acts as manager and books another gig there.
June 27 – Sunday – Ben and Jerry’s festival in Sugarbush, VT. Larry talks us onto the tour bus with The Band and then takes me into Buddy Guy’s trailer. Buddy seems wary. We end up onstage for the show.
July 4 – Sunday – Classic Rockfest in Stratton, VT. Larry talks DC and himself backstage at a show featuring The Band, Leon Russell and Johnny Winter
July 15 – Thursday – Larry attends a show with the Heavily Bros. At Macleod’s Compass Rose in Rutland, VT. He gets into an altercation with someone named Charlie.
July 22 – Thursday – Larry attends a show with The Heavily Bros. At Macleod’s Compass Rose in Rutland, VT. He again sings along with “Dear Prudence”.
August 7 – Saturday – Larry attempts to take a large group of people from Rutland into a Blues Festival featuring B.B. King at Stratton Mountain, VT. He is drunk before the group leaves Rutland. He is stopped backstage with the group and taken to an office where he is asked who he is. He says he is the tour publicist. They inform him there isn’t one. We are told to buy tickets or leave. I am very angry with Larry as he had convinced me to sell my inside tickets because I wouldn’t need them. We have words in front of the group and part ways.
August 13, 14 – Friday, Saturday – Larry attends shows at Gurey’s in Manchester, VT I recall that he acted strangely or suspiciously and drunkenly and on the way home showed me a gun.
1994
January 20 – Thursday – Larry attends a show with The Heavily Bros. At Macleod’s Compass Rose in Rutland, VT and is taking pictures.
February 3 – Thursday – Larry attends a show with The Heavily Bros. At Macleod’s Compass Rose in Rutland, VT. He has befriended a local keyboard player and been telling him he would make him famous. I end up in a huge argument with the keyboard player as he tells me that I’m a loser and Larry’s going to make him famous.
June 2 – Thursday – Larry attends a show with The Sandra Wright Band at The House of Blues in Cambridge, MA with girlfriend that my wife and I introduced him to.
July 2 – Saturday - Larry attends a show at Macleod’s Compass Rose in Rutland VT. Larry gives me a SRV Backstage Pass and makes some sort of offer to XXXX.
July 28 – Thursday – Larry attends a show with The Heavily Bros. At Macleod’s Compass Rose and give me pictures and shirts. I am unsure as to the specifics of this and suspect that it is a Charlie’s Guitar Shop shirt and pictures of one of SRV’s strats at The Hard Rock and/or signed SRV photos which he did give me also.
August 10 – Wednesday – Larry attends a show with The Sandra Wright Band at Manny’s Car Wash in New York City, NY. He may have taken photos of us and I have a note that he behaved.
A leather jacket he said that was his and that SRV signed. This has been declared a forgery by JSA Authenticators. SRV’s name is misspelled
A crown shaped pin that he alleged had belonged to SRV and which had adorned his hat
A handwritten letter from Larry claiming that he would make me famous and relaying that he would send me a picture from before SRV signed it (either the picture or the jacket signing was supposed to have happened during SRV’s tour with Robert Plant which occurred in 1988 (the jacket is dated 1986).
A ‘70’s Crybaby Fuzz Wah guitar effects pedal that he claimed had belonged to SRV
A letter of authenticity for the Crybaby that was alleged to have been handwritten by Rene Martinez (SRV guitar tech) The handwriting is very similar to Larry’s handwriting
A promo photo of SRV and Double Trouble alleged to have been signed by the entire band. All of their handwriting is the same and it is clearly very similar to Larry’s handwriting.
A photograph of SRV and Double Trouble backstage allegedly signed by SRV. Also, similar to Larry’s handwriting and also SRV’s name misspelled.
A t-shirt from Charlie’s Guitar Shop in Texas.
The Jacket & Hat Pin
The SRV Signed Leather Jacket:
I was given this jacket by Larry Warren on March 25th, 1993. This was sixteen days after I had met him in Rutland, VT. The jacket has a crown shaped pin on it that Larry claimed had been the one attached to Stevie Ray Vaughan’s hat. It has an autograph in black magic marker across the back that says “To Larry, Guar”un”teed Stevie Ray Vaughn”. NYC 1986
Who writes their own initials in their coat after they have left school?
Warren told Duane this was SRV's actual hat pin.
Comparing the two pins you can clearly see that they are not the same.
I can prove that I met him on March 9, 1993 as I have a date book from 1993 that I recorded things that happened at my gigs as a journal. I wrote on that day that I “met Larry Warren”.
On March 25, 1993 I wrote that Larry had given me the jacket and the pin.
The Personal Letter
I can further prove that I definitely knew Larry as on May 22, 1993 he wrote me a handwritten friendly personal letter when he was allegedly in CA. In this letter he not only praises my musical skills but states that he will use his contacts in the music business and guide me to a major music career. He specifically mentions that he is going to send me a photograph of SRV and (presumably Larry wearing) the jacket before it was signed during the first tour SRV did with Robert Plant. I never received the photo but there is a photo of him found online appearing to be photoshopped next to SRV where he is wearing the jacket.
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Warren mentions the SRV Jacket
Warren wearing the jacket in a very obviously faked photograph, awkwardly holding the guitar.
One of the images left on my partner's laptop by Warren
Sold for $80,000.00 with an estimate of $250,000.00 (buyer was made aware).
Bad hair day for Stevie, Ridiculous angle of the guitar, just so you can see the signature. Warren is wearing the jacket in all of the images of him.
Official & Professional Authentification Analysis
On October 31, 2018 I sent the jacket to JSA Authentication and it was determined that the jacket is a forgery:
Accompanying Email
"I went over this item again with the owner of the company after he returned from his trip. For extra confirmation, I also sent the jacket around to a few other consultants, just for additional feedback regarding the signature. Everyone else I sent the signed jacket too also came back negative (a total of 9 authenticators and consultants took a look at this item, and none of them were in favor of the autograph).
"This is pretty far off from our known, valid examples of SRV's autograph. There are several inconsistencies with letter formations throughout this entire example. Whoever signed this certainly gave it their best college try, but we do not believe this to be a valid example of SRV's autograph"
Jackie Thomas / Customer Service Manage
James Spence Authentication, LLC
Extra Clarification
Just to clarify before we move on. A total of TEN authenticators looked at this jacket, ALL of them deemed it to be a FORGERY. We KNOW this was Warren's jacket because he is wearing it in all the forged photgraphs and mentions giving it to Duane in the personal letter written by Larry Warren. This PROVES Larry Warren forges memorabilia.
Unfortunately and fortunately, Duane did not exchange money with Warren for the Jacket, the Cry Baby Wah Wah peddle or any items mentioned by Duane. If he had, this would be a legal matter now because we would have a sales victim. Warren gave these items to Duane to reel him in with flattery. Only16 days had passed between Warren and Duane meeting at that fateful gig, yet he had given him what would be priceless belongings, had they been genuine that is.
Back to Duane's Document & The Authentication
I asked if the last reason was due to the word guaranteed being broken into three pieces: Guar”un”teed and that it was something that SRV never did and they said yes. However, I have located someone who has done that before. Larry did it in the handwritten letter he sent me where he wrote “At-tee-tude”.
I feel that it is safe to say that since Larry clearly states SRV signed the jacket he gave me and it has been proven to be a forgery and there are clear similarities between the writing on the jacket and Larry’s own handwriting as well as his use of the unique habit of breaking words into three pieces, that one can conclude that Larry forged the jacket.
Another problem is with Larry’s claim that there is a photo of him wearing it with SRV before it was signed on tour with Robert Plant. SRV toured with Robert Plant for the Non Stop Go Tour in 1988…not 1986 when the jacket is dated.
In fact, a further issue is that Stevie’s last name is spelled wrong, Vaughn rather than the correct spelling of Vaughan. Larry also gave me a photo of SRV and his band Double Trouble that also has the same misspelling of Stevie Ray’s last name.
Mispelled Vaughan as Vaughn
Larry also gave me a promo photo (above) of Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble he alleged to have been signed by all members of the band. In this shot, the same misspelling of Vaughan appears and all of the band members appear to have the same handwriting.
Spelling is something we will look at more, but at this point we have a handwritten letter from Larry Warren stating that his jacket was signed by SRV and given to me. We have SRV’s name misspelled on the jacket and the same misspelling on another item given to me by Larry and told that SRV signed it. It seems ridiculous for someone to believe that SRV didn’t know how to spell his own name but we will see that Larry is a very, very poor speller.
Of note here is that it is dated 7/3/90. This the date of a show that Stevie Ray Vaughan played at The Champlain Valley Fairgrounds in Essex Junction, VT. I am very familiar with this show because my wife and I attended it and ended up down in the front where we had a very good view of the stage. The show was a double bill with Joe Cocker opening for SRV. I still have the ticket stubs:
Warren claimed to be at this gig, it is the gig he claims SRV gifted him the signed guitar.
We will discuss this show more as we look at the allegedly owned and signed Stevie Ray Vaughan Fender Stratocaster that has been put up for auction several times.
When I first met Larry in 1993, he was already showing people things that he alleged to have been owned, played, worn or signed by a number of celebrities. This included:
An army jacket alleged to have been owned and worn by John Lennon
A pair of glasses alleged to have been owned and worn by John Lennon
An Alembic bass alleged to have been owned by John Entwistle
Any number of SRV signed photos
Drawings alleged to have been drawn by John Lennon
A painted acoustic guitar alleged to have been signed by The Grateful Dead that was auctioned off and the auction book was used around Rutland as proof of it’s authenticity
A pickguard alleged to have been signed by Eric Clapton
A photo of and alleged to be signed by Eric Clapton
A Jackson bass alleged to have been signed by John Entwistle
A copy of Pink Floyd “Meddle” alleged to have been signed by Roger Waters
An album of and alleged to be signed by all members of The Grateful Dead
A 1967 Fender Stratocaster that he alleged had been Jimi Hendrix
This item is one that bears scrutiny. I personally saw this guitar up close and in person. Larry told me that it had belonged to Jimi and since I was a big Jimi fan it was of interest to me. I had a book that listed a number of known Jimi owned and used guitars, amps and pedals listed by serial numbers and receipts. I informed him that the guitar was not one known to have been owned by Jimi according to the book.
It was alleged to have been given to Larry Warren directly by Stevie Ray Vaughan at the 7/3/1990 concert at The Champlain Valley Fairgrounds in Essex Junction, VT…the very show I attended. Here is the Letter of authenticity that was presented as proof of its provenance that is alleged to be in Stevie Ray’s own handwriting:
This auction was completed and then later contested. The following is the text from a page on a website that is run by the purchaser of this guitar back in 1995. This page has since been taken down but it directly calls out Larry as the seller of a forged guitar:
"This guitar was first sold by Christie's auction house in 1995, having been consigned on behalf of Larry Warren, an author of a book regarding his encounter with an allegedly alien spacecraft in a forest in the UK. Larry Warren claimed to have obtained the guitar directly from Stevie Ray Vaughan.
1. There is no photographic proof that Stevie Ray Vaughan ever touched this guitar or one similarly customized in appearance.
2. A review of credible equipment inventories and appraisals created by or on behalf of Stevie Ray Vaughan reveals no evidence that he ever owned this guitar.
3. The photocopy of a letter allegedly penned by Vaughan does not appear to me to be his handwriting. In my opinion someone merely copied his tendency to write in all caps and make his E's like backwards 3's. A forensic handwriting specialist (not a common for-hire "authenticator") should examine the document.
4. Singer Paul Ray of the Cobras showed the letter to Jimmie Vaughan who told him the letter was probably not Stevie's handwriting.
5. The statement in the letter is that Stevie acquired the guitar from singer Paul Ray of the Cobras. Paul Ray denied this in writing in 1997.
6. The letter allegedly in Stevie's handwriting appears to have been altered since 1995 in that the name "Paul Ray" has been somewhat obscured, while in 1995 it was as clear as all the other writing. If altered, it was done after Paul Ray revealed in writing that the statement about him was completely false.
7. The letter allegedly in Stevie's handwriting refers to having played the guitar on stage on July 3, 1990, in Vermont. In researching this guitar, Warren made repeated assurances to me in 1995-96 that the guitar had been played for two songs on stage by Vaughan on that night, and that he knew photos had been taken to prove it. He promised to obtain and provide the photos to me. In 1997 Warren finally admitted to me on the phone that Stevie did NOT play the guitar that night, and there would never be any photographic proof. Thus, the two primary verifiable facts in the letter have been proven false.
12. A note accompanying the 1995 sale "witnessed" the transfer of the guitar from Stevie to Larry Warren, and had two signatures in addition to Warren's. That note also seems to have disappeared since 1997. Warren could not provide me with any contact information for the first "witness," Mike Howe. Whether that person exists or was a made-up name by a forger is unknown.
13. When contacted, the other "witness," Pete Jones, refused to verify the facts to me. When contacted by Christie's auction house, Jones apparently did not provide any credible evidence that Stevie Ray Vaughan had owned or given the guitar to Larry Warren, because Christie's cancelled the sale.
14. The note now accompanying the guitar, allegedly written by Cesar Diaz (now deceased) is dated 1999, four years after the guitar was originally sold. Even if Diaz examined or set up a guitar for some unidentified person in 1999, there is nothing in the receipt that suggests, much less proves, the ownership history of the guitar.
15. The note allegedly from Cesar Diaz appears to have had the customer's name removed and then the page photocopied to help conceal the alteration. (I have not personally examined this note.)
16. The last "9" in the date of the Diaz note does not look like the other 9's. Did someone change the date to make it more difficult to trace the origin of the note?
17. The note allegedly from Cesar Diaz does not refer to any guitar by serial number or other identifying characteristic, and could have been for repair to any of the thousands of Stevie Ray Vaughan tribute Stratocasters made by Fender since 1992.
19. A Lyra guitar originating from Larry Warren was sold by a different auction house with a very similar handwritten letter attributed to Stevie Ray Vaughan. The guitar was advertised with a photograph of Stevie holding a Danelectro guitar, with the Lyra guitar leaning against his chair or leg. The original, published photograph does not have the second guitar in the photo!
20. A black hat bearing a signature similar to the one on the Fender "Cobras" guitar was sold at another auction in the 1990's. After the auction it was determined that it had been made (and therefore signed by a forger) AFTER Stevie died, and the sale was rescinded. I was told the hat originated from Larry Warren.
21. I am not aware of any instance of Stevie Ray Vaughan giving away a valuable guitar such as this one, much less writing a note saying, "You have my permission to sell this guitar."
22. In 1997, after being presented with some of this information, Christie's rescinded the auction sale of 1995 and returned 100% of the buyer's money.
23. I made the most of the above information available to Guernsey's director and attorney approximately one week before the auction. After reviewing the information, Guernsey's director stated that they would not sell the guitar.
The above constitute my opinions. I do not have any ownership, financial or other interest in this guitar. I do not know who consigned the guitar to Guernsey's and have no reason or intention to harm anyone's reputation. Your conclusions about the authenticity of the guitar may be different than my own. “
Here is the Cesar Diaz receipt that is mentioned in the above text:
In addition to the statements made in the website text quoted above, the same purchaser also posted this statement on his website:
“4. "STEVIE'S" GUITARS
Every few months another guitar shows up on the internet with someone claiming it was Stevie's. While it is true Stevie had a lot of guitars, evidence of him giving away guitars is exceptionally rare. Here is just one story of the lengths to which one criminal went. BEWARE because this guitar is still out there.
On April 1, 2003, someone listed a Fender Strat for auction on eBay, alleging that it was owned and used by Stevie Ray Vaughan. It was signed in gold paint pen, and had "COBRAS" in small mailbox letters on the pickguard. The starting price was $125,000.
I purchased this same guitar from a major auction house in New York in 1995 (which later refunded my money). The guitar came with two pieces of documentation which purported to authenticate it: (1) a full page handwritten letter, supposedly in Stevie's hand, describing the history of the guitar and the circumstances of it passing to a man in Vermont. The letter stated that Stevie obtained the guitar from a member of the Cobras in the 1970's, and that it had been used on stage the night the man got it in 1990, among other things. (2) A short handwritten note from Rene Martinez about the guitar, dated 1994.
I personally contacted that Cobras band member who stated that he never owned this guitar, and never transfered it to Stevie by sale or gift. He also stated that he and Jimmie Vaughan do not believe the handwriting is Stevie's. Rene Martinez stated he did not believe this was Stevie's guitar, he did not recall any transfer of a guitar from Stevie to anyone while on tour that night, and that he never marked guitars he worked on in the fashion this guitar was marked inside the neck cavity. I personally compared the note purported to be in Rene's hand with a known genuine example of his handwriting, and it did not match, in my opinion.
On January 26, 1997, the man finally admitted to me on the phone that the guitar was not played on stage the night he got it "from Stevie" in 1990, despite "Stevie's" handwriting saying he did.
On January 29, 1997, the auction house stated, "As a result of the substantial issues which have been raised with regard to the authenticity of this guitar, [we] will rescind the sale." My money was refunded in full.
I met the man and spoke with him on the phone on several occasions. It is my opinion that on at least one occasion between 1987 and 1990 he met Stevie and probably obtained at least one autograph from him. I have seen a photo of the man and Stevie together. It is possible that the autograph on this guitar is genuine, but due to other circumstances which I will not go into here, it is my opinion that it is not.
I spoke with the current owner. He says he has no connection to the previous owners. After listening to what I had to say, he closed the auction. Based on our conversation, I have no reason to believe the current owner had any intention to defraud anyone or pass along bad merchandise.
This is just one more reason why you need to be very careful buying collectibles. Apparently, I was not the only one who was ripped off (almost) regarding this guitar. The same forger is suspected of creating other handwritten letters supposedly in Stevie's hand, a signed black hat from Texas Hatters, a pickguard alleged to be off Number One, another guitar purported to be Stevie's, a two-page set list alleged to have been from Alpine Valley, and other items.” [end]
Duane's input
I would like to add my own observations of the alleged SRV written Letter of Authenticity for the guitar:
1: The letter claims “Serial number under neck plate. I forgot”
The serial number on a 1967 Fender Stratocaster is not under the neck plate. It is on the neck plate and certainly a guitar player the caliber of SRV and who is an ardent fan of Stratocasters would absolutely know this.
Even if one were to try and claim that the neck plate had been changed to one that appears in a later auction of this guitar that was personalized, I don’t believe there is any incident of SRV replacing his Stratocaster neck plates with a personalized one.
2: Sunburst is one word and I am sure a guitar player of SRV’s caliber would also know this.
3: The letter alleges that SRV gave the guitar to Larry Warren on 7/3/1990. Stevie’s own guitar tech told the original purchaser he never saw the guitar and Stevie didn’t own it.
4: I was at that show and Stevie didn’t play that guitar for two songs in the encore.
5: Larry admitted to the original purchaser that SRV didn’t play the guitar at the show even though the alleged letter of authenticity in SRV’s alleged handwriting says otherwise. This should be proof enough to the world that Larry is a liar and forger, but since it hasn’t been then one must ask, why would SRV lie about playing the guitar when he didn’t and why would he say that he played the guitar at Larry’s request when he did not?
6: The letter states that Joe Cocker sang one of the two songs that SRV used the guitar on with him. As someone who was there I can state as 100% factually that Joe Cocker was the opening act but did not sing so much as a single note with Stevie Ray at that show. One must ask why Stevie Ray would write this when it never happened?
7: The alleged Letter of Authenticity brings up a “Hendrix” thing. It describes a hole in the lower horn that would have been from a strap button having been installed there. The guitar I saw in Larry possession in Rutland had that hole. For the record, when I saw that guitar there was no autograph on it, no stickers and no personalized neck plate. Also, I own a 1963 fender Stratocaster that had the same hole from a strap button on the lower bout. I never thought that Hendrix owned my guitar. After all, he was not the only left-handed guitar player in history.
9: The signature has the weird little swoosh mark through the tail of the autograph which is the case with the one on the guitar. This does not seem to be a common part of Stevie Ray’s signature.
10: My suspicion is that Larry was nowhere near Essex Junction, VT on 7/3/1990. When he met me and quickly realized my passion for SRV he took advantage of that and he absorbed my story of attending the show into his own forgery to give some sort of detail to the Letter of Authenticity claims. I would suggest that since he claims to have saved so much memorabilia allegedly acquired from famous people that he would have some sort of evidence, such as a ticket stub, backstage pass, un-photoshopped photo from the show. He has not offered any of this. I would also submit that since it has been proven that the claims in the Letter of Authenticity are false and that it surely wasn’t written by SRV (not knowing where the serial number was, that he played the guitar on two songs during the encore and that Joe Cocker sang one of them). This would leave one to conclude that it is most likely that since Larry was selling the guitar and he was providing the Letter of Authenticity as proof and that the guitar was proven to be a forgery and the claims in the letter aren’t true one can only conclude that he forged the Letter of Authenticity too. Let me remind you that the STARTING price for it in 1995 was $125,000.
11: There is no evidence whatsoever that Stevie Ray Vaughan ever tried to play guitar left handed.
This guitar was auctioned again in 2016 by Gurnsey’s where the asking price was $102,000.
You can see the Letter of Authenticity alleged to have been written by SRV as well as the guitar fitting the same description as the described by the original buyer
Here is the text from the auction site:
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Stevie Ray Vaughan-Owned & Signed c. 1966-67 Fender Stratocaster. UNRESERVED. Serial#: 191460. Stevie Ray Vaughan owned and signed 1966-67 Fender Stratocaster in a three-tone Sunburst finish. The signature is broad and in gold ink, dated " '90," and also present on this guitar are some worn stickers; one group of stickers reads "SRV" and the other, located on the pickguard, is rather worn and faded but the word "Cobras" is visible. Vaughan played with Paul Ray and the Cobras in Austin, Texas from 1975 until 1977. This Fender's silver neckplate is etched in block letters "STEVIE RAY VAUGHAN DALLAS, TX." Paperwork inside the case with more of Vaughan's handwriting.
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65 East 93rd Street
New York, NY 10128
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Guernsey’s says the guitar’s silver neck plate is etched in block letters “STEVIE RAY VAUGHAN DALLAS, TX,” and will be sold with paperwork inside the case with more of Vaughan’s handwriting.
Lot#: 284
Condition: Good playable condition
Estimate: $250,000 – $500,000
Starting Bid: $75,000
Sold For: $80,000
Stevie Ray Vaughan-Owned & Signed c. 1966-67 Fender Stratocaster
Stevie Ray Vaughan-Owned Fender Stratocaster
This three-tone sunburst Strat was owned and signed by SRV, according to Guernsey’s. The gold ink signature is broad and dated ‘90. Also present on this guitar are some worn stickers; one group of stickers reads “SRV” and the other, located on the pickguard is rather worn and faded, but the word “Cobras” is visible. Vaughan reportedly played with Paul Ray and the Cobras in Austin, Texas, from 1975 until 1977.”
There is a podcast interview online with Larry talking about this guitar and claiming that it was stolen from him and that the signature is real and that it was not auctioned off by him. His claims are proven false because the original purchaser of the guitar is 1995 posted that he directly spoke with Larry about the guitar when he bought it as Larry was the seller. He specifically says that the signature is a forgery and Larry lied to him about it being played at the Essex Jct. Show and that he lied about there being photos of SRV playing it.
One other handwritten document that I received directly from Larry Warren was a letter of authenticity allegedly from Rene Martinez for a Crybaby Fuzz Wah guitar effects pedal that had allegedly belonged to SRV that Larry also gave me
I never believed that the foot pedal belonged to SRV as the handwriting here was too similar to the handwriting in Larry’s letter to me a year prior as well as many other reasons. At this point I would like to start dissecting and comparing documents connected directly to Larry Warren. Beginning with this document. One of the things that seems hard to swallow is that Rene Martinez makes the same kind of S’s as Larry…and SRV and apparently Tommy Shannon on a promo shot I received directly from Larry where all of the members of Double Trouble autographed it…and their handwriting is all the same.
It would seem unlikely that so many people to also use backward 3's for E's
Just as a side note here, it would appear that the only time in Stevie Ray’s life that he didn’t use a backwards 3 for and E was when he allegedly signed Larry’s leather jacket which was given to me directly from Larry which he mentions in his letter and says was signed by SRV and has now been proven by JSA Authentication to be a forgery:
Note the small 'e' in 'Stevie' as well as Vaughan spelled incorrectly, “Vaughn”.
Upon scrutiny you will begin to see the use of different versions of certain letters across documents. There is second type of capital E used:
You will begin to see that sometimes multiple versions of a letter are used in the same document.
We can also compare these documents of mine to other documents directly from Larry Warren used when auctioning items. The same L appears in the alleged SRV letter for the guitar sold in 1885 and more recently by Guernsey’s as appears in other documents:
Genuine Yoko Ono signature, clearly leaning the wrong way
There is the same L used on the leather jacket which is a confirmed forgery.
Again, there are documents with multiple versions of the letter L:
Still waiting for the court of law thing to happen
Other letters appear as well across multiple documents such as a certain J:
This last one is from an album Larry gave directly to someone in Rutland, VT and it was alleged to have been signed by all members of the Grateful Dead.
There is also the use of a different J across multiple documents:
A third style of J is also used in multiple documents:
Also, the use of two different versions of J in the same document”
How about the letter 'C'?
You could compare letters all day long and find the same letter formations.
As mentioned before, you can also find an awful lot of misspelled words. One in particular, “during” which appears across numerous documents as “durring”.
SRV's brother is actually Called Jimmie Lawrence Vaughan, not Lee as it states in the letter. "I now work with Jimmie Lee as his guitar tech"something Martinez would know if he has worked with the Vaughan's since the 80's. [Editors Note]
It seems very strange that Rene Martinez, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Charlie Lennon and Larry Warren all don’t know how to spell the word “during”.
More misspellings:
You could spend all day looking at letter formation across documents, look at how many times there is a combination of cursive and printing within documents, how many times handwriting changes within the same document (for example the mention of John Lennon prompts letter formation similar to his). There are certainly enough glaring things wrong with these documents for anyone to suspect they were all written by the same person.
Duane Carleton. 2019
Some Final Points From Sacha
As Duane just said, you really can spend days on end finding problems with the various items included in this blog, but not only this blog but the many blogs about forged memorabilia that came before this tome. I encourage you all to do your own homework. Please feel free to use anything included in any of these blogs. Double check what I am saying, disect my research and Duane's, do your own analysis on the handwriting. I will at some point gather together the many and ever growing number of handwriting samples we have. We now have original pieces, I have more items coming to me in the near future.
Apart from the very obvious forgeries you have seen within this blog, there are many more issues with other aspects of Larry Warren's life and what he claims to be the truth. Everything he says comes with a controversy, if you look closely enough you will find things I have, as yet, missed.
Up to now Warren has told everyone that I am a drug addled nymphomaniac who abuses my children, that I have spent a year inside a 'nuthouse' or a 'mental hospital' in fact his exact words were "Ex nuthouse Inmate" just look at the language. You are an inmate in a psychiatric prison hospital, maybe, but certainly not in any psychiatric ward in this country or even century.
Gary Heseltine parrots Warren's lies and adds his own to the crazy lady narrative. I am infatuated with Warren and that is all there is to this. There is no evidence against Larry Warren, and he should know what evidence is because he worked for the Transport Police. He says because he hasn't been convicted of crimes, he is innocent. He says this is all a fatal attraction thing. I am just a bunny boiler.
You can make your own mind up, based on actual evidence, not the desperate gossip of a bunch of lying misogynists. This is all Sacha Christie's opinion Gary Heseltine recently stated on a thread on Grant Cameron's page. You can read that here.
I wrote an open letter to Gary heseltine with many audio and video segments of Warren saying different things and Lying. It is eleven months since publishing that blog, he ignored it completely and tells people it is just my opinion. You can read that here
It's not my opinion Gary Heseltine of Ufo Truth (decay) Magazine and here is the evidence, official and backed up by a further nine other memorabilia experts.
In September 2016 I was convinced I would be able to involve the authorities and tried to report these crimes to Merseyside police without success. They treated me like I have special needs, refused to take statements from me even though another constabulary wanted a statement to secure an arrest of someone who had threatened to shoot my friends family and cut off his nose, he then went onto say if you retaliate in any way I will do the same to Sacha Christie and he handed my address over to prove he had it.
The police attended my address three times doing welfare checks when I wanted to make a statement to them, then finally sent an officer to my address who we believed would be taking a statement for Bradford Police. Instead she refused to take the statement and shouted at us for 40 minutes.
A complaint to the IPCC was pointless, they couldn't even get the names of the people involved right and said they had investigated, they can only investigate after a statement has been made. They did no such thing.
The police also told my local MP that they had investigated my claims and so he didn't help either. Then Warren said on one of his many radio shows which were just platforms for verbal assault, that he had family in the police here in Merseyside and of course, we all know he is keeping company with an ex transport police officer. Warren mentioning the fact he has family in Merseyside Police indicates corruption.
Below are the documents I prepared for the authorities. They did not take them from me and told me they do not investigate fraud and that I had to inform Trading Standards which I did. Quite blatantly they haven't investigated him as he is still selling forged memorabilia on auction sites.
A reminder of the official analysis that denotes this item is forged memorabilia.
Larry Warren wants us to believe he is 19 in this photo.
Blog re John Lennon friendship here
Blog re SRV Frienship here
Blog re Warren Drunk In Live stream claims "I was PA to the Beachboys in the late 70's"
Blog re Adrian Bustinza and Rendlesham here
Blog How The RFI whistle was really blown here
Google Drive Link to audio of the Merseyside Police Officers visit here
Note, she didn't even introduce herself, I found out who she was when I received the very ill informed IPCC response which dismissed me completely, the names were incorrect, the information within was not even true.
Apparently if you are a part of the UFO and Paranormal community then you deserve everything you get, including being trolled daily by no less than 50 people. They would not use the Malicious Communications Laws and denied me my right as a UK citizen to report any of the crimes being committed. I was in fact abused by the WPC who attended in April to take a statement for Bradford Police but refused to, stating "I don't work for Bradford Police", also I was patronised by the other officers that attended who decided they needed to act as social workers rather than police officers.
As you can see from the evidence I collated in the documents by September 2016, there are crimes to be reported. I estimate that since 2011 Warren has generated at least £80,000.00 from his fraudulent sales. There is probably more out there to find but I think I was throrough enough to warrant further investigation by the authorities. Since that time many more sales have happened.
I stopped disrupting his sales and have allowed him to continue to commit crimes so that there will be something recent to prosecute him for. They include a Jimi Hendrix jacket for £15,000, a Jimi Hendrix ring for £8,000 and a Jimi Hendrix painting that I saw him paint, for another £15,000. Other items in the auctions recently are John Lennon sketches and other assorted Lennon items as shown in the document titles 'Auction Items'.
Some of his items were showcased on the BBC Look North News Rydale Auction Featured on BBC. I managed to alert the Auctioneer who actually wasn't impressed with me but i had forced the situation upon him by plastering the evidence I had on their Facebook page. They informed the attendees of the issues posted on their Facebook page and gave them a period of time to check.
These items have been through several auctions, iIoutline them in the auction Items and Sales documents I converted into blogs. (posted above). It was also featured on the BBC Look North TV News show I think Sian Lloyd was the reporter. I haven't been able to locate that piece online, iIknow it exists though. I will continue to search.
Recent Auction Sales, Evidence of Attempted Fraud
On the 1st of December 2017 I discovered these items for sale in yet another auction. I actually conferred with May Pang, who is John Lennon's ex girlfriend,who indicated to me which items were definitely not John's. attempts to contact Yoko Ono and Julian Lennon have been unsuccessful as yet. Efforts continue.
There was a very significant reaction from Peter Robbins who was Warren's Co Author until Peter realised Warren was and had always been, lying to him. He discovered items that he had given Warren that were part of Peter's collection of sentimental items of his sister Helen Wheels. Helen died in 2000, Peter gave warren those items because he genuinely believed Warren would have some sentiment for them.
Yet again another sample of Warren's handwriting compare to the alleged Lennon sketch below
A previous example re his spelling. He signed this himself. Everything goes back to him and it is all his own handwriting.
As you can see the above items all look to have been written by Warren. Peter vehemently insists those flyers he gave warren had no writing on them. Not one signature. he can prove they came from his sisters estate as there is an official stamp on them. This was just last year, there have been sales since.
Just so you know if you are an American living in this country (Liverpool) and you sell items online without an official business, you can get away with it. You can do anything you want to do. You don't have to pay Income Tax, VAT or Capital Gains tax. You can send death threats, hand out peoples adresses while connecting them to terror attacks without a single consequence.
You can get together a big group of men to attack a person relentlessly and try and drive them to suicide just as Warren did to me, his full intention was to have me malfunction so dramatically that I couldn't even speak, to remove all my friends and support and hope that you catch the mind of a dangerous lunatic who would be another Mark Chapman as Warren mentioned many times. You will see from the other documentation I have provided that this is indeed the case.
Duanes evidence underlines mine. You tell me... Am I just a crazy, ex nuthouse inmate, drug addict who is in love with Larry Warren who moved him into our home so I could have an affair with him under the noses of my parter and children? Or do you also think there is a very big problem here? If you do please feel free to contact Merseyside Police and tell them yourselves.
I am just a UFO nutter who shouldn't be listened to because I have had depression, I have ADHD and have had mental health issues which were post natal, I was post natally depressed when Warren moved in with us, our daughter was just ten months old when he moved in, she was 14 months old when the attacks started.
Warren and his accomplices also falsely reported me for working while claiming disability benefits a total of four times. They also reported me to social services for abusing my children and being a drug addict. Think about that for a second. They tried to have my benefits stopped and my children taken from me. They failed. This was not considered to be harassment by the police.
At some point I will redact the Independent Police Complaints Commission and post that online with the threats of death and harm in order so you can see how the police bunched many death threats and threats of harm into one complaint and ignored it all rather than treating each incident as a crime, which they were under the malicious communications laws that only seem to serve to protect politicians who have been parodied online.
From let to right. Alyson Dunlop, James Welsh and Sacha Christie. Get some is a military term for killing people.
This happened when I realised he had stolen Adrian Bustinza's account and said so in public.
He said this because I said I was going to go to a conference he was talking at to ask him why his account was exactly like Adrians, verbatim. He was subsequently banned from the premises by Glasgow University. I was blamed for this and trolled for it. It had nothing to do with me. I wanted him to talk, I wanted to know what his narrative was.
This was said when he had joined forces with Nigel Mortimer to have me run off the scene, this was when he was handing out my home address to the most undesirable people you can imagine.
If you have anything you wish to add or you are one of Larry Warren's victims please contact me at this email address; lwfraud@gmail.com
The show below is an Interview with Ronnie Dugdale who is Britains Leading Rendlesham Researcher. He is in contact with many of the Rendlesham Incidents participants and witnesses, some are public, most are not. He has an excellent insight into the events due to knowing pretty much everyone who has been involved in whatever capacity, during the events and afterwards in the 37 years of the many research findings since the events occurred. He will hate me saying it but it is the truth.
Sacha Christie and Ronnie Dugdale
Larry Warren and the Alien Base Under Bentwaters and Woodbridge Recording
