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In a very short time I will be releasing some irrefutable evidence of Larry Warren's fraudulent activities. As if I haven't already.
A summary of The Larry Warren Fraud
Open Letter to Stevie Ray vaughan fans by Craig Hopkins. Larry pretends he doesn't know who he is and in a radio show referred to him as "some cat who runs a fan club". Craig actually bought the guitar through Christie's in 1995 and has several calls, exchanges and even met once. Warren knows exactly who he is. he wrote both SRV biographies.
The contents;
An Open Letter to Stevie Ray Vaughan Fans and Memorabilia Collectors
In February 2016 a sunburst Fender Stratocaster was advertised by Guernsey's auction house in New York City that is purported to have belonged to Stevie Ray Vaughan. Many sources on the internet reported it sold for $100,000, but Guernsey's director has stated it was not sold. The guitar is allegedly signed by Vaughan in gold pen and dated "'90," has "SRV" stickers on the upper horn and "Cobras" stickers on the pick guard. Because this guitar has been on the market several times since 1995, I believe I should publish my research on the guitar as a public service so that others interested in this guitar may reach their own conclusion whether Stevie Ray Vaughan owned or signed this guitar.
In my OPINION, and to the best of my knowledge:
This guitar was first sold by Christie's auction house in 1995, having been consigned on behalf of Larry Warren, an author of a book regarding his encounter with an allegedly alien spacecraft in a forest in the UK. Larry Warren claimed to have obtained the guitar directly from Stevie Ray Vaughan.
1. There is no photographic proof that Stevie Ray Vaughan ever touched this guitar or one similarly customized in appearance.
2. A review of credible equipment inventories and appraisals created by or on behalf of Stevie Ray Vaughan reveals no evidence that he ever owned this guitar.
3. The photocopy of a letter allegedly penned by Vaughan does not appear to me to be his handwriting. In my opinion someone merely copied his tendency to write in all caps and make his E's like backwards 3's. A forensic handwriting specialist (not a common for-hire "authenticator") should examine the document.
4. Singer Paul Ray of the Cobras showed the letter to Jimmie Vaughan who told him the letter was probably not Stevie's handwriting.
5. The statement in the letter is that Stevie acquired the guitar from singer Paul Ray of the Cobras. Paul Ray denied this in writing in 1997.
6. The letter allegedly in Stevie's handwriting appears to have been altered since 1995 in that the name "Paul Ray" has been somewhat obscured, while in 1995 it was as clear as all the other writing. If altered, it was done after Paul Ray revealed in writing that the statement about him was completely false.
7. The letter allegedly in Stevie's handwriting refers to having played the guitar on stage on July 3, 1990, in Vermont. In researching this guitar, Warren made repeated assurances to me in 1995-96 that the guitar had been played for two songs on stage by Vaughan on that night, and that he knew photos had been taken to prove it. He promised to obtain and provide the photos to me. In 1997 Warren finally admitted to me on the phone that Stevie did NOT play the guitar that night, and there would never be any photographic proof. Thus, the two primary verifiable facts in the letter have been proven false.
8. If Stevie had used the guitar on stage, René Martinez, Stevie's guitar tech, would have known, but René told me he had never seen this guitar.
9. A note that originally circulated as provenance with the guitar in 1995 was allegedly written by René Martinez, but he told me he did not write the note. After Martinez denied any knowledge of the guitar, the note has apparently disappeared.
10. The handwritten note does not appear to match a sample of René Martinez' handwriting that is in my possession.
11. In 1995 the inside of the neck cavity bore a piece of tape with "R. Martinez" written on it, implying that René Martinez had worked on the guitar or set it up for playing on stage. Martinez told me had had never worked on this guitar and had not placed the tape there.
12. A note accompanying the 1995 sale "witnessed" the transfer of the guitar from Stevie to Larry Warren, and had two signatures in addition to Warren's. That note also seems to have disappeared since 1997. Warren could not provide me with any contact information for the first "witness," Mike Howe. Whether that person exists or was a made-up name by a forger is unknown.
13. When contacted, the other "witness," Pete Jones, refused to verify the facts to me. When contacted by Christie's auction house, Jones apparently did not provide any credible evidence that Stevie Ray Vaughan had owned or given the guitar to Larry Warren, because Christie's cancelled the sale.
14. The note now accompanying the guitar, allegedly written by Cesar Diaz (now deceased) is dated 1999, four years after the guitar was originally sold. Even if Diaz examined or set up a guitar for some unidentified person in 1999, there is nothing in the receipt that suggests, much less proves, the ownership history of the guitar.
15. The note allegedly from Cesar Diaz appears to have had the customer's name removed and then the page photocopied to help conceal the alteration. (I have not personally examined this note.)
16. The last "9" in the date of the Diaz note does not look like the other 9's. Did someone change the date to make it more difficult to trace the origin of the note?
17. The note allegedly from Cesar Diaz does not refer to any guitar by serial number or other identifying characteristic, and could have been for repair to any of the thousands of Stevie Ray Vaughan tribute Stratocasters made by Fender since 1992.
18. Cesar Diaz worked on amplifiers for Stevie Ray Vaughan. Guitars were tended by René Martinez.
19. A Lyra guitar originating from Larry Warren was sold by a different auction house with a very similar handwritten letter attributed to Stevie Ray Vaughan. The guitar was advertised with a photograph of Stevie holding a Danelectro guitar, with the Lyra guitar leaning against his chair or leg. The original, published photograph does not have the second guitar in the photo!
20. A black hat bearing a signature similar to the one on the Fender "Cobras" guitar was sold at another auction in the 1990's. After the auction it was determined that it had been made (and therefore signed by a forger) AFTER Stevie died, and the sale was rescinded. I was told the hat originated from Larry Warren.
21. I am not aware of any instance of Stevie Ray Vaughan giving away a valuable guitar such as this one, much less writing a note saying, "You have my permission to sell this guitar."
22. In 1997, after being presented with some of this information, Christie's rescinded the auction sale of 1995 and returned 100% of the buyer's money.
23. I made the most of the above information available to Guernsey's director and attorney approximately one week before the auction. After reviewing the information, Guernsey's director stated that they would not sell the guitar.
This is the blog where I dissect Warrens alleged friendship with SRV and the faked photos he used to generate an image of himself with SRV and the guitar Craig Hopkins bought. Incidentally, Craig Hopkins is given a thanks in the book Left at East Gate at the back.
This is my blog regarding Adrian Bustinza's comments Warren actually accused me of falsifying the comments made by Bustinza. However, the conversation was between John Burroughs and Adrian, in a facebook group I am not a member of.
He also went to see a solicitor to have a cease and desist served on myself and three others just to stop us from talking about him. He lied to his solicitor and he then refused to represent him. Warren still says publicly he has already taken legal action. He has not. that is a lie. He then gave his copies of our letter to a friend who put them on facebook before we even got them.
Here is the blog where I talk about Warrens fictitious relationship with John Lennon. Warren tells everyone i am trying to ruin his business and character, the only problem is, I just repeated the news. May Pang said the sketch he sold to Russ Kellet is fake. I didn't, I just said i saw it in my house and Warren left a copy of a photograph of it on my partners laptop.May Pang said it is fake to another news outlet. .
One of the so called pieces of evidence Warren has is a photograph of an A10 which he alleged he took during the day while driving around Ipswich. It has a ufo over it. In LAEG he states he was in Germany and only just made it back to base in time for duty having stopped at the Cherry Tree pub and walked back to base. I discovered images on the laptop Warren used while he was here. I then spoke to Barry Greenwood who had all the photos warren gave him in the mid 80s. I told him that Warren was saying that it was taken in 1980 while Barrys notes show it was taken in 1985. He assured me that photo was taken in 1985 on Warrens honeymoon. I busted the date, I busted the fact the UFO above it had been added in. I wrote about it, Barry Greenwood issued a statement, then Gary Heseltine talked to Greenwood then claimed HE had bust the photograph.
Peter Robbins appeared on a show that was advertised to be discussing the recent issues. No such thing happened, I wrote an open letter to Peter robbins
In between all that I wrote to the National Archives asking about Warrens Military Records,. Warren has always complained that the NSA snaffled his away. I got a response within 24 hours to from the customer emergency response team.
This is my blog from a year ago when he was going to be speaking at the SPI conference in Scotland but was barred by the university itself, not SPI, for his threats to me. I was barred from this event but have been given a guest pass for this year. Everyone who opposed me initially have now been helping me get this information out. At the time they believed what Warren had told them and that was that i am a drug addict, a child abuser, I neglect my children we live in filth and that i loved him but was with dave. Dave and I were always doing drugs and arguing. The truth is, he was the one doing drugs and we kicked him out. He said he left because he couldn't stand our arguing.
There is so much more.... Please check through past publications and check back soon as I will be revealing some new evidence which he cannot deny but I am quite sure he will try. To hear Warrenm telling various versions of various parts of the events he claims to have participated in please go to this blog. Even if you don't read a word and just listen to the clips you will hear him speaking and telling different versions. This isn't coming from me, this is all his own voice, his own words, his own radio shows, interviews... All from his own mouth.
Ben Emlyn Jones recently posted something about Peter Robbins on his Facebook page and a meat head called Jay Deavin wrote that he hated Peter and called him a jewboy fag, then changed his comment several times using the edit function until he was happy with his arrangement of his sentiments. Ben reckons Jay Deavin is one of the people who outed Larry Warren as a fraud with me. Jay Deavin is a REAL PERSON.
The post offensive
Ben's opinions on Peter yet again, comments from Jay Deavin and Sue McAllister, Larry Warren's Ex wife and weirdly obsessive enabler
Jay Deavin having a good old practice at getting his meat head feelings in order. Maybe the lady doth protest too much.
Yawn indeed Sue. Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwn indeed. Hows that 911 story of Warren's working out for ya?
Poor Ben.
Sickup
Indignant outrage. Quite rightly so, well said fellas.
This attack is worse than 9/11
Ben says that he is almost 50% sure that Jay is one of us. So NOT sure at all then Ben?
He then goes on to say in his podcrap, IF he is right (which he DEFINITELY is NOT) and it was one of us, then that makes this a FALSE FLAG OPERATION and called it a mini 9/11. Ironic that he brought 9/11 into it seeing as that is one of Larry Warren's most spectacular lies. Lets just add that in for effect because Ben says Larry Warren hasn't lied and apparently he has proven this. Only Larry Warren was here in the UK and was seen at a conference in Leeds when he was also somehow at Ground Zero because of his expertise in the steel industry. He claims he was flown in especially to help with the clean up, yet he gets no mention on any of the registers, not one photo in the memorial photo albums or any other images anywhere and he is probably the only person not to have suffered with any of the diseases associated with the clean up. No evidence that Larry Warren has lied....
Here is Ben's podcrap, skip to over half an hour in as he just witters rubbish and gives everyone an update on the space weather because you know, all the executives at BT, Samsung et al, need Ben to keep up with when business will be busy. Only telecoms and people who work within the power industries and probably NASA (etc) need to know that stuff and I am sure they are all avid listeners. Go Ben!! Saving the world, one line fault at a time. Yeeehaw! Listen here.....
Lets just go back over his drivel because I digressed a tad there..
He considers this situation to be on a par with 9/11 and in his blog puts racism above peadophilia as a more heinous crime. He is ALMOST 50% sure this is a false flag operation as bad as 9/11. That this is the worst troll attack he has ever been subject to. Well if you look at HIS forum HPANWO then you will see what a troll attack looks like and this is FAR from an attack in the first place. Where is the evidence of us attacking Ben? Nowhere because it doesn't bloody exist.
Peter was called names by Jay Deavin, names that Ben apologised to any of his friends who saw it but not to Peter who I must add... Is completely heterosexual without the slightest homosexual inclination. Also please take note of Sue McAllister, Larry Warren's EX wife who not only is agreeing with Jay but inflaming the situation while indicating that he is in fact more than just a jew boy fag, people just don't know the half of it, he is so much worse than being a jewish homosexual according to her, because that is a terrible crime isn't it? She didn't see fit to tell Ben about the comment, even though he bleats that no one told him, nobody thought they had to (or cared?) so she must have thought he would be okay with this, which is understandable because of how he REALLY is, not this false prophet we see on Facebook, sanitised to almost death. He freely admits he hardly ever uses Facebook anymore, prefering to use other sites that are far more difficult to have anything removed from if you a a parasitic troll.
Ben hangs out on here where he can be a proper uninterrupted troll
A mini 9/11. How pathetic is he? How derogatory is he to those who perished because of those atrocities? How much of a victim is he? He is 100% a poor little man baby victim according to him. NOBODY accused him of racism, the attack wasn't even racist and I feel like I have to point out that the only people who think of Jews as a race existed in 1940's Germany and since that time, pockets of meat-heads around the globe who hate anything that isn't white and straight. It is religious intolerance and also homophobic. Racism has nothing to do with it but Ben doesn't know the difference because he is 100% a feckless attention seeking drama queen, total idiot and professional victim, forever crying man baby.
Nobody said Ben attacked Peter AT ALL, NOT EVER but Ben has turned this into something about HIM again because it is the ONLY way he can justify his continued interference in MY LIFE and the life of Peter Robbins. We discussed the situation, as is our right, but Ben only wants free speech for himself and he wants us to stop talking about him talking about us. Well we won't and we are not going away and seeing as he likes to make everything about him, lets do that. Warren was my friend and was living in my house. Peter Robbins was Warren's friend and Co-Author and NONE of it is anything to do with Ben Emlyn Jones, yet he insists that WE are trolling HIM when HE is the one interfering in the lives of Peter and myself. Can I say this enough? NO I CAN'T. So I will say it again.
This is our actual LIVES that we live every day that Ben thinks is his business.. These are real events that have happened to Peter and myself, nothing to do with Ben in any way shape or form. He cries when we retort to his never ending conspiratorial insanity. 28 blogs about us, who even knows how many radio shows and his stupid videos of heavy breathing nostril shots while sweating profusely, denigrating everyone and everything that doesn't conform to his delusional insanity, while continuing to pretend he is a hospital porter when in actual fact he will get arrested if he ever sets foot in the hospital he was sacked from, unless he is dying. He was sacked for happy slapping a colleague with learning difficulties while filming it. He denies this of course but he was ordered by the court to stay the hell away, they upheld the hospitals decision in his appeal and had an injunction issued against him. He will be arrested and charged for breech of the court order issued against him if he sets foot on the hospital grounds.
Here is a photo of an idiot outside a hospital that he has just been banned from by a court order. He actually sat outside and filmed himself saying all this. He isn't allowed any nearer than this unless he is dying. Below is the video of him bleating in his full on victim, weird stalker way.
He records his shows while he sits in front of his camera, in his festering pit with his forlorn and redundant hospital porters uniform hanging in the background, he starts his videos "Hospital Porters Against the New World Order with pride and dignity"... Pride and dignity? NOT a Hospital Porter. Sacked and barred from the building by a court order. Pride and dignity? Do me a favour. Walking through the streets in a cricket hat with childs toy sword is the opposite of dignity. Everything about Ben is the complete opposite of dignity. He is an interfering parasite who thinks that his every brain vomit ought to be aired without contest and that he can sucker himself onto a host and feed from them until he has had enough, which is never, but it probably explains why he is ever expanding while his weasley eyes vanish behind his overstuffed eyelids.
Meeting Droike.
He recently walked through the city center wearing a childs cricket hat wearing a jock box, carrying a childs plastic sword he had found in the street, while talking to his camera, going to meet someone called Droike, which incidentally, many people think Ben IS Droike, trolling himself for the attention. Droike, if he even exists, hadn't agreed to meet Ben for this manly man baby punch up with a plastic bendy sword. He just went on the off chance that Droike had received his invitation for a manly punch up and had gone to all the effort of meeting Ben in his suggested place at the suggested time. The only person who turned up to this playground insanity gone mental was Ben himself. The instigator of this potentially violent situation. One can only imagine the scene if Droike had turned up. I am sure he would have died... laughing.
In the video below he laments the fact that he can't confront Alyson Dunlop and myself in this manner because we are women... Don't let that put you off Ben I am all about equality. But the fact that he COULD confront David Young this way seems to placate him momentarily. David is yet to have received an invitation for a manly scuffle with Ben. He might be a large chap but he isn't a giant mentally is he? He would contest that remark and I am sure he will and when he does I will show you more evidencew to the FACT. As if you need any really. Double click videos to enlarge.
Ben likes to act like he is some sweet little angel, but five minutes on his HPANWO forum and all those illusions quickly fly out of the window like the monkeys from the wicked witches castle. Ben's forum is a platform for hatred, racism, anti semitism, general people hating, it is basically a troll pit and is an accurate reflection of Ben himself, ironically he is trolled the most on there and i have to commend those forum members for their galliant efforts.
As you glance through the posts of Hagbard Celine (Ben's forum name) you will see some choice language and a lot of holocaust denial. Apparently the gas chambers were just showers with normal plumbing and he uses a photograph of POW's who are not yet emaciated and says they all look healthy. He KNOWS this because he knows how the world works, he is the ONLY person who can see it and by golly is he going to stop the New World Order and save us all from our own ignorance. Not that we are in any danger... Everything is crisis actors and fake blood, it is all staged and nobody actually dies. So really we are ok then? Ben can shut the hell up and vanish up his own event horizon then? GREAT! double click video to enlarge.
Will the real Ben Emlyn Jones please stand up. Oh there you are.
Ben as he really is.
I am all for free speech but some people turn it into a weapon. Ben IS a weapon, but only in the street slang sense. Ben wants to say whatever he want's to say about everyone else, he facilitates the constant bullying of various people on his facebook page and especially his forum, but he doesn't want anyone talking about him. He just want's to do whatever his deranged mind throws up without any resistance. Tough shit Ben. Those days are over. Gone are the days when Ben holds court on his page with the rest of the gang of merry misogynists, they are too busy trying to look squeaky clean because there is a massive chance all this is going to blow up in their faces and all they care about is the film Capel Green. They HAVE to behave now because of how badly they behaved before, they want this to ALL go away and so they don't want Ben's insanity gone mental rhetoric and attention being cast on their baby. Also far too late, once said, always said.
Ben reckons he has single handedly caught out and highlighted our lies and proven that Larry Warren isn't a fraud. He SAYS it but he has done no such thing. All he does is witter on about who said what and produced the most retarded analysis anyone has ever seen. His blogs are nothing but attention seeking whinges without any substance, no facts, no hard evidence and not once has he countered my evidence with anything remotely substantial. He is a gossip monger, a fishwife, a guttersnipe and a craphound, not a researcher but a crisis hugging parasitic half-life-form, not sure that I can be any clearer. His books are ridiculous, his story lines are weak and plotless and are a direct reflection of Ben himself. Sloppy, overstuffed, pointless and plotless.
As I said, Ben thinks his every waking thought ought to be video'd and shared in the public domain because we are all so friggin fascinated by the contents of his mind.
In recent weeks there has been a flurry of activity from you hasn't there? Show after show after show moaning about me. At the start Warren was doing his own thing wasn't he? But suddenly vanished! He was supposed to be appearing on the Jo Lomax show on CCN but there was an announcement from the show organisers saying "Due to unforseen committments, Gary Heseltine will be replacing Larry Warren as guest".
David Young and I posted on the CNN shows anouncement. I asked if it was anything to do with the fact Warren and Joe Montaldo just called Race Hobbs, producer of KGRA a paedophile live on air, I can't actually remember what David posted now, possibly the infamous Filey Conference recording. Whichever, it was totally relevant. We were blocked and labelled trolls for asking by the admin. So we went into the chatroom and sat and asked reasonable questions all night. None of which were answered. At the end, to Jo's credit, she did ask if you would answer some questions but you said no way. She said they would have you back on to answer questions, that will never happen. You won't answer questions on the spot, or at all, you just call me a troll which is such a cop out, calling anyone a troll is a technique of avoidance, so you don't have to face a person or what they are saying. It's an immediate turn off for the easily swayed, you know for those people who don't need any evidence, they just roll with it for professional reasons. It's so lazy and conceited of you all.
As you were talking to Jo Lomax about what happened to Warren, you stated that Warren saw a red mist on the ground. Red? It was yellow Gary. A yellow mist lay on the ground in a circular shape, sometimes he says it was pill shaped, kind of elongated, sometimes he says it was a foot off the ground other times he says it was on the ground, but it is always a red light which came across the sky to it. It was about the size of a basketball, stopped, touched the 'fog' and a sparkling shower erupted that blinded them all. This caused him his Opti/Ret Burn according to more modern tellings. Weirdly though in the CNN video he says the object didn't harm them at all.
LarryBot
I can't be sure, but it seems his performance on the show he did with Christina George was so utterly embarassing that you decided to put him in a box and shut him up. Not long after this someone had taken over Warren's Facebook account, his usual life threatening rants were replaced by "If you wouldn't mind awfully directing yourself to this particular article here you will see that there is no way on Earth Larry Warren wrote this status I paraphrase. So for a short while even Larry Warren was a complete fake. Why didn't you/whoever just write a status, "Larry can't come to the phone right now he has been tied to a chair with duct tape over his mouth"? Why was it thought to be a good idea that someone just pretended to be him? Do you know how that looks? He appears on a live YouTube stream completely off his face and the next thing we know, Warren has vanished and a Larrybot is operating his Facebook page and you're doing all the talking. Click images to enlarge.
Screenshot below is for comparison
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Fatal Distraction
Throughout all of these shows I have obviously been painted as a stalker by Warren and yourself, also by Warren's ex wife who peddles the pretense that people thought I was his ex wife, I have previously debunked this lie but here is the evidence yet again. Even though I have proven this before, you continue to tell that lie that people think I am his ex wife, and that information came from his ex wife. You said it in the Jo Lomax show. Here, once again, is the story behind all that. I have put this out before Gary. If you knew what was going on you would know all this, you are repeating lies. Click images to enlarge.
Disparaged Housewife
Gary, you stated I am a sychophant, there is something wrong with my behaviour, you say it is just a fatal attraction thing. Rather than proving me wrong about anything, instead of addressing the things I am saying, all you have done is attack my character, my personality, my lifestyle and my mental health. Warren has attacked my children and my mother as well as my partner Dave, calling him a hacker. Saying somehow Dave killed his facebook account. All that account needed was for Warren to show identification to Facebook to prove it was his account. He screams he was hacked out of it and that if only he had that account he could prove everything about the A10 photo etc. Get him to reactivate the account then. All he has to do is prove to Facebook he is Larry Warren. End of crying episode, cheers and merriment all around because then you can all prove that somehow I faked all the photos Warren has been uploading for years right?
Temper Tamper
It's a little like the military documents he said I tampered with, the ones I put out are altered, yet they match perfectly the ones in Left at East Gate and everywhere else on the net. Now we know he can get his military documents, why hasn't that been done? Where are the comparisons I asked for to show me where I had changed what and the uploaded them and replaced every copy on the internet. Why is that a question you avoid? Why am I a troll for asking? After all it is one of my long standing questions now. If Warren reactivated that Facebook account you could prove everything he says right? If Warren applied for his military records then he could prove me to be a liar right? What is the hold up on that?
It's also like the A10 photograph that you wrote an article about in your magazine. You know the one you all said at a later date, I faked it. Or the guy who analysed it faked it, maybe it was Nick Pope? It was uploaded onto his Facebook account years before we fell out. It is fake. It was faked by Warren, you just refuse to admit that. Read this blog to refresh your memory, because you've read them all before right?
You also said that I am responsible for tampering with other images. They were debunked yet here he is only a month or so ago on January the 8th 2018, using a debunked photograph as evidence that he was friends with Stevie Ray Vaughan, all while saying SRV wrote wall of denial about the Rendlesham Forest Incidents. That is a total lie. It was written about drug addiction and wasn't even written by Stevie at all, it was written by Doyle Bramhall who had his own demons.
You say there is no evidence of Warren selling forgeries. There is a letter by Stevie Ray Vaughan's official biographer. Also recently Peter Robbins identified some items in auction Warren was selling, he had forged Helen wheels signature after her death. May Pang is also a victim. he uses her name constantly to sell items, he creates fake letters of authentification from her for items that never belonged to John Lennon. I didn't make that stuff up, it has all been said by someone else.
Click to enlarge. Taken from Andy Young Truth Frequency Radio Show July 21st 2016
Click to enlarge. Taken from Andy Young Truth Frequency Radio Show July 21st 2016
Pot Calling Kettle
Now Warren is even accusing me of stealing my account of our group UFO encounter in Wales, from Whitley Streiber along with my other experiences, all of which have been written about by other people who were unfortunate enough to be with me when certain things have happened. Until recently I haven't written about my own experiences, I have talked about them in public since 2005 and so have other people. One of my experiences is written about in three books because there was a house full of people and it happened to more than just me. Dogged Days ~ Ellis Taylor. Does It Rain In Other Dimensions ~ Mike Oram and also in Ann Andrews book Walking Between worlds, Belonging to None.
Death To The infidel!
So Larry Warren and Gary Heseltine, you are not trying to sabotage my career here, you are trying to sabotage me. I don't consider this to be a career, It is not my profession, I do not get paid for anything. I write my own blog. You are trying to make me look bad so that I lose all my friend, my reputation as you see it would be trashed and replaced with the 'reputation' that I am just a crazy drug addict, child abusing mother who lives in filth and moved a friend into the house so I could have an affair with him under the nose of my fiance and children, but when I didn't get my own way I just went crazy and am now his stalker, I am just a mental case bunny boiler. In some of the posts written about me they say I am an ex mental patient, a nut house inmate. A mentally ill housewife who is off her meds. This is the image you are painting of me so people don't like me, don't listen to me, don't talk to me, so they all hate me.
You want all my friends to hate me, in fact you want the whole world to hate me, you want to destroy any support I might have, you want me removing from the scene. Warren wants me dead and has made no effort to hide the fact with his endless threats which you seem to think are fine. You don't bring up my evidence and counter it with the evidence you say you have. No, you go on radio shows to whine about how horrible and mental I am. What a troll I am, you say I am a terrible person who has poisoned the minds of everyone into believing me. All of Warren's long term supporters now support me because I am the good liar, this is a pity party and it is all for me Gary Heseltine right? . Then when I point these things out you say I am playing the victim, but you are the one crying victim. I am making observations about your atrocious behaviour and your own wall of denial. You say I am trying to ruin your magazine, how so? I am talking about Warren not you. You made this about you, I didn't. If I talk about you talking about me, you say I am attacking you. Your problem is your association with Larry Warren, not anything I have said. I couldn't care less about you or any of the people supporting you. It is laughable that all you have to say is that I am crazy.
The Law Of The Land
I have legitimate questions about Warren's account but according to you Gary Heseltine, Ex Transport Police Officer and owner of the brand of UFO Truth Magazine, it is all "rubbish". No convictions and no arrests. Yes that is highly unusual as we discussed on the ADX Files show this week. Highly unusual that Suffolk, Glasgow and Bradford police wanted to act on behalf of Mick Sayer, James Welsh, Alyson Dunlop, David Young and Myself, yet Merseyside police refused point blank to look at anything, take a statement and in fact shouted at me when they were meant to be here to take a statement for Bradford police ,but they refused stating they don't work for Bradford, all the while Bradford were more than happy to make an arrest because that man had menaced people twice before. You were a police officer so you know what that's about right? To everyone else it looks incredibly suspicious yet you choose to use it as a victory of some kind. You relish in the fact I have been harrassed by around fifty people over the past couple of years on behalf of Warren. Most of which now support me. No one has managed to chase me off but you think you can don't you? You think you are the person who is going to make everyone see the crazy stalker you say I am. If you haven't heard the show Gary, here it is.
Obviously I have said a lot about Warren's life. People ask what has the rock memorabilia stuff got to do with what happened at Rendlesham? Absolutely nothing is the answer, but it has everything to do with the kind of person he is. So because people want to know what this has got to do with Rendlesham. I am going to outline a lot of things, not everything, that would take forever because literally everything he says is a lie. Yes that is a bold statement, so I have spent some time harvesting clips from various shows. Some of the shows I knew well, remembered well, found them easily, but while I was on that mission I found some other things that really need to be showcased that I really want to put to you Gary Heseltine. Firstly I will outline just some of the issues about his account, then I will move onto other things.
Lets just take a look at what it is I am saying shall we? See if you can respond to any of it without calling me names, in fact lets see if you can do this without talking about me at all. If you take Sacha Christie out of the situation. there will still be a situation. Look at the situation.
Right back at the start of all this when he was speaking under the name Art Wallace his account was very different to what it is today. Did you know that he told Dot Street, Brenda Butler and and Jenny Randles for Sky Crash, that when they got to the field and closer to the object, there was a ball of light that touched him on the head and he woke up back in his bed at the barracks. he said he woke up and his room mate told him he had been there about an hour. He told Brenda and Dot that he didn't see any aliens but that he felt a presence. Interestingly that same room mate according to Warren in his talk for B.U.F.O.H later commited suicide. Warren shared that bit of information to the Filey audience by doing an impression of someone shooting themselves in the head with full sound effects. But it seems to me he was back at the barracks in their room the whole time. You can find out can't you Gary? He called his room mate Alabama. Ask him was he in the dorm all along or out with those guys crying against a tree? The fact is 'Alabama' bought himself a ticket home and flew off AWOL, he had to be brought back to face the consequences and he definitely did not shoot himself in the head.
Hypnolies
Anyway! Lets get back to this part because it is very illuminating Gary. As I have shown, in Sky Crash Warren states he didn't see aliens but felt a presence. Under hypnosis he remembered so much more, including seeing aliens! Aliens he now says he never ever said he saw. The first time he 'remembers' seeing aliens, was when he was being regressed by Fred Max. The big problem I have with that is that he actually faked that hypnosis session. If you read You Can't Tell The People by Georgina Bruni, you will read how he faked the whole session, he said he didn't want to disappoint anyone. So the very first time he saw aliens was when he was faking hypnosis.
Source: You Can't Tell The People, Georgina Bruni.
As you can see from this image of page 313 of Sky Crash originally he doesn't see anything much. He passed out, woke up in his dorm where his room mate told him he had been there for about an hour. However when he had his faked hypnosis, he remembered seeing aliens.
Not only did he not see aliens, he said that the rumours the commander was there were hearsay. In later years he tells us of how the commander shook hands with life forms. Currently he says he NEVER said any of that.
Germany/IpsWHICH?
Let's talk about Germany now, we really should go back to the start, to before the start. He says he was in Germany until the 27th of December 1980 in Left at East Gate. He also states in the interview he gave with Peter Robbins, "In Contact, 1993" he states he was in Germany, he got back on the 27th, his shift rotation started on the 28th. He got up and went to Ipswich for the day and was put on an insignificant post and that his night of events was 28th going into the 29th. It is now established that he was on his first ever shift even though in Left at East Gate he says his guard mount was boring 'as usual'. He wouldn't know, it was his first ever shift wasn't it? You have said this in an interview with him yet recently you said he had been on shift for 10 to 12 days. Which is it?
Below is a clip of him from In Contact filmed in 1993 saying he was in Germany but came back on the 27th of December 1980 for his shift rotation beginning on the 28th December 1980. Then two clips of him saying he was in Ipswich on the 27th December 1980. These were taken From his Filey talk in June 2015 and also the KTPF show March 2015.
But when we listen to him speaking in a video titled "Larry Warren Early Interview" he states that his night was again was the 28th going into the 29th and was a Tuesday. Actually the 29th was a Monday. Tuesday was the 30th and that is when he told Barry Greenwood and Larry Fawcett the events had happened. Now he states his night was the 27th. As we can see from the drawings he provided to Barry Greenwood and Larry Fawcett he thought it happened on the 30th December.
I have included these three short segments of an interview of Warren. Unfortunately I don't know the date. I included them because not only does he talk about aliens, he tells a different story. The aliens didn't come from a bubble as he states now, he says he saw a light split into three, each of these lights had a life form in it. Not only that.... he says the Base Commander was there! If you read the book Sky Crash he says the Base Commander communicated with them. Something he now says he never ever said. NEVER said it. Video is 37 mins long.
Here is a short clip of Warren saying the Base Commander was present, below that in the second clip is from his Filey talk July 2015 where he says he never said he said any of it. This is a very short clip.
Larry Warren drew this for Barry Greenwood and Larry Fawcett in 1983/4. Note the date. 30th December.
Given To Barry Greenwood By Larry Warren For The Book Clear Intent.
Taken From Barry Greenwoods Clear Intent Files
As you know Gary, Warren is telling people he never said he saw any aliens and he never said he saw the base commander, he also said he never said there was an underground base. So here are clips and photos of the entrance to the underground base which he gave to Barry Greenwood and Larry Fawcett for the book Clear Intent. So how do you explain away all of the above?
Jeepers!
Okay lets move on to when Warren was picked up from his guard post. There have been numerous people in the back of that Jeep. Adrian Bustinza and Bruce Englund usually feature, but who is driving changes. Also the person who explained the unexploded ordanance bit changes too. It's a road block guy in KTPF show, It is someone he knows from the barracks in another, One time Adrian Bustinza said it out of the window and another time Warren himself says it. Sometimes Bobby Ball is in the Jeep, in Left at East Gate it is a black officer who's name he can't recall and more recently in his Filey talk he says Steve Longero was with him! This is all documented. But then we get to the bit where the driver of the jeep asks "Where the hell are we supposed to go"? Here are two different versions.
Taken from B.U.F.O.H talk July 2015 Filey
Taken from KTPF Radio Show
Adrian Bustinza
It wasn't that long ago when Adrian Bustinza stated publicly that he did not see Warren out there. Larry Warren then accused ME of falsifying the public statements Adrian had made using his own Facebook account, in a conversation to John Burroughs in a group that I am not a member of!
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When I wrote the blog Left Out At East Gate (which I updated with Adrian's comments) Adrian thanked myself and another for listening with an open mind. Not once did he say, you got that wrong Sacha.
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More Concerns
Steve LaPlume also said that Warren had asked him to lie. He states Warren was getting out on account of a disability that wasn't noticed in training. He had a problem with his wrists and so was getting out of his contract. He told Georgina Bruni this and he also made a statements of his own.
"Larry confided to me that he also was involved in the sighting and went on to lay it out. Now right off the bat his story did not seem to jive with what he has been saying. Larry told me initially he and a friend were walking back from a night out of drinking and such and they were on a road near Woodbridge village. He said as they walked they saw something in the sky that was odd. He told me of balls of light how they split and became three and soon after the sighting a person whom he said was AFOSI or from the intel community approached them on the road after they started to continue the journey home. Larry told me the spook told them both to keep shut about what they saw. He mentioned the other person did not want to be known. He then went on to say a few nights later, while on duty, he was told to fuel up the light-alls and take them out by the East gate so he and others did just that. Larry also mentioned the fuel pump was not working right and the equipment eventually did not work right when it was on location either. Larry said they were forced to give up their weapons because of our agreement with the UK and he was told to enter the forest. He said as he did so he saw an airman with his head on his forearm against a tree crying and that animals seemed to be leaving the area. He mentioned seeing a deer fleeing. Larry then told me he saw a high ranking official but never mentioned who it was. He said the officer approached the craft which was out in a small field or clearing. I remember him saying clearing not field. But it is a gray memory and not sharp enough for me to be positive. He said it was hovering off the ground and also that the officer slipped and fell in the mud and he got a chuckle out of it. He said the officer got to the craft where three beings he described as looking like "kids in snow suits" were at and that they also were hovering above the ground. He said while he knew they were communicating he could not see how because they were no outright talking. Larry mentioned other airmen in the area and how it seemed they were sent there as witnesses of some sort. He then told me parts were flown in from Germany to fix the craft which was put in a sand pit of some sort. He said there were people filming video of the encounter as well and that film was flown to Germany. Larry then went on to tell me about his cut off call to his mom when he was talking to her about the incident, being taken in a dark vehicle, sprayed with something to make him ultra groggy then taken and was underground. He mentioned how there was a being behind a screen and how the person giving him and others orders also gave a talk about the whole UFO phenomena and showed related videos. Larry said this person was not military but intel. He also mentioned a vast underground facility. Larry stated that he was shown where the craft went under the base and were housed. He said the UFO's would go out and come up under the North Sea where they would emerge from to take flight"
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"Larry had told me when he was getting discharged that it was a medical discharge for an issue he had with his hand/wrist and that the USAF should have caught it upon enlisting but they did not so they were letting him out of his contract. I do know he was not under anything disciplinary or he would be next to me cleaning toilets on Major Zigler’s shame patrol. If he is saying he got out because of anything else I would question that" This is very interesting because Warren told Andy Young on his Truth Frequency radio show July 2016 Stevie Ray Vaughan was at his wedding. You would think Steve LaPlume would be saying something completely different here.
".Larry and his claim to have met so many famous people like Stevie Ray Vaughn. - I can say this that back in the later 80's I met Larry at his place in Lake George and he showed me photos of him and SRV as well as Yoko Ono and they were Polaroid's if I remember right but either way it was long before digital cameras and such and Photoshop so I have to say I believe he was there and met these two people. How much he was friends with any of them is beyond me. The pics of him with Yoko and SRV were taken at the same spot at a particular event though as it was the same background so maybe he could have known them or maybe he was just a security guard or had a backstage pass. He did mention he had something to do with promotions for a label when he lived in New York City. I never got into details with him about that".
Click to enlarge. Taken from Truth Frequency Radio July 21st 2016
He also states that Warren asked him to lie for him. that lie was he wanted Steve to say he smuggled a cannister of film out of the base in a mug he bought from Germany, which we now know he never went. The story of that film cannister is interesting too. He gave photos to Georgina Bruni and told her they were from a guy who was local to the area and had seen events and taken photos. He gave them to warren. Warren held onto them for nineteen years apparently. Georgina accepts the photos but then receives a phone call one week later from Larry warren saying that he took them. That very same photo is said to be of events on the first night, a night Warren states (now) that he wasn't involved in so he couldn't have taken that photo. The story of that photgraph in his Filey conference talk in 2015 is that it is in fact an official DoD photograph now according to Warren.
"Larry had asked me to lie once for him when Georgian Bruni was interviewing him. He called me and talked to me about some film he had asked me to hold when we were at Bentwaters. Only thing was I have no memory at all about him ever asking me to hold onto or hide film for him and I told Georgina just that. Larry's exact words were "I just need you to tell her I asked you to hold onto some film canisters for me and that you did."
Here is more evidence of Warren's bragging about his connections.
"I relocated to the West Coast but my father had taken ill and I returned to the East Coast in the later 80's. I had been racing superbike motorcycles and was working on sponsorship for the upcoming season. I had linked up with Larry and spent a few days with him up in Lake George NY and asked him since I was a racer not a business man and he was more of a suit and tie guy then if he could manage me and help with sponsorship retention. I told him I had approached the Very Fine Beverage company and they seemed receptive. Larry took it from there and got me a sponsorship package or at a minimum he had things set up and I just needed to close the deal because he was relocating and was unable to continue helping me. The issue I had here hit me like a ton of bricks. Once I called Very Fine and talked to my contact she did not remember me as we had only spoken briefly before Larry took over. The woman who was in charge of promotions for the company assured me she had no idea who Larry Warren was, who I was and had never talked to anyone about a motorcycle sponsorship and that she would have remembered such a request. Larry had never contacted the company and it completely fucked up my racing career that year. I believed I had a sponsor but with none I was sunk for the season. I had no way of recovering and got out of racing as a result. I would not race again for about 10 years until I moved to China where I eventually became an instructor at a superbike school. So after claiming to be a friend he flat out lied to my face and fucked up things for me. So do I know Larry Warren to be a bullshit artist? Oh hell yeah".
There are other things to consider too. such as in his interview on KTPF radio he says that he saw Col Halt before he went into the forest and saw what he says he saw. But in his Filey talk he states that he was walking back after his event with Adrian. He states categorically twice, he split with Adrian AFTER their time on Capel Green and that is how Adrian could be with both Warren and John and Halt. At 1h 11 mins into the first segment and then again at 1h 22mins in.
In Other Muse
I hope for other people reading this, you can now see there are many issues with Larry Warren's testimon(ies). You can see that I have every reason and right to challenge public statements being made by a public figure, in public, especially when there are so many inconsistencies. Inconsistencies that Gary Heseltine says don't exist. He says that my behaviour is abnormal, it is all rubbish and that I am basically a bunny boiler. It's just a fatal attraction thing. Don't you Gary?
So now I have explained not all, but some of the issues with "Rendy" I will bring up some other blatant lies. The ones that people have asked, "What's this got to do with Rendlesham".
I think the best and most recent lie was recorded by David Young while he sat in the audience at the B.U.F.O.H Flying Saucers Have Landed Conference in Filey July 2015. I have mentioned it already in relation to Rendlesham. In this talk he tells the audience of about fifteen people he co-signed Metallica and received half a million dollars finders fee. He is saying that he discovered and signed to a record label the band Metallica. I know right! Incredible! Weird then that the documentary on Netflix and all other literature about Metallica talks about Michael Alago, the man who really signed Metallica. so that's a LIE.
John Lennon and May Pang.
You accuse me of being the person to sway Peter Robbins, amongst everyone else. But it wasn't anything I said, it was Warren. If you read my Open Letter to Peter Robbins you will see we were both asking the same questions as each other. You will see that Warren told Peter that this photo was real and that Peter took exception to that. Peter made his own mind up about Warren. As has everyone else. Here is Peter Robbins statement if you need to refresh your memory Gary. We are supposed to believe that this photograph was taken a week before Lennon died when Warren was just 19 years old.
Here is the news article where May Pang stated the sketch Warren sold to Russ Kellett was fake. I never accused him of anything to do with memorabilia until this happened. Yet you both put it at my feet. That I am lying, that I am trying to ruin his business and reputation. Well my name is not May Pang and I did not say this. Once again, I am repeating news and you both put everything at my feet. I include screenshots of a conversation from May Pangs page on the anniversary of her UFO sighting with John Lennon on 23rd of August 1974.
Below are two radio shows, I have referenced the Andy Young show already, I talked about Stevie Ray Vaughan being at Warren's first wedding. The second show he is telling Ben about his superstar laden life and how Yoko Ono copied an art exhibition he did just the year before in New York. It is very interesting to say the least. He tells some amazing stories. Most of which can be found in biographies. Michael Francis ~ Starman, Alf Weaver ~ The Original Rock and Roll Bodyguard, Peter Grant and Richard Cole both wrote books who's memories have been absorbed by Warren.
I also want to bring up the fact that Peter Robbins stated categorically that the flyers he gave to Warren that he put in for auction, originally didn't have any signatures. He actually forged Peter Robbins dead sisters signature then tried to sell it.
There there is the fact that he also claims to have flown out to Ground Zero immediately after the atrocisites and worked on site for four months because of his 'career in the steel industry'. He says he saw body parts being pulled from the wreckage. In reality he had a four month old son and was still here in the UK. He actually attended the Leeds UFO Magazine conference at the end of September!
As you can see Gary, all of these issues didn't originate with me. They have followed him through the decades. There have always been problems with his account. I chose to believe HIM the man, not his book. I read that after I'd made my mind up about him, after I met him, not before. Even though I met him in 2007 and have met him many times, we even went away to the Weird Weekend in Devon together for five days with Peter Robbins, you tell people it was just an online friendship but you are wrong. You are wrong about everything you have said about me.
Skanky Whore Bore
Recently James Welsh Called Christina George a "Skanky whore" for reasons known only to himself. You deliberately twisted this and put it at my feet. You are still doing the rounds saying your wife was called this but that is not true at all. You placed HIS commments at the feet of "The Fab Four" not at James' feet. OUR feet as a collective. We are not a collective anymore. Anything I post is to do with me and the same goes for alyson and David. As for James, none of us even speak to him anymore. Nobody called your wife anything at all. Then when David and James needlessly apologised to her (because nothing was directed at her) you twisted their actions and said they were trying to make you and your wife fall out! I don't even see your logic there.
Christina George posted an announcement that she would be broadcasting a show with Joe Montaldo discussing me. I posted the screenshot of her post, James jumped in a said "Shut up you skanky whore". Your wife wasn't saying anything so how does "Shut up" make sense? Christina was directing a post to me and that was James' knee jerk reaction. I told him not to talk about her like that. You then twisted this into "The Fab Four" had called your wife a disgusting name. How does James' mouth represent all of us? By the same token Gary, I could hold you directly accountable for all the things Warren has said.
The Crying Game
It seems you just need something to cry about all the time. Something to keep you in the victim zone when really you are the aggressor. You have taken on a fight for Larry Warren when you are not in full posession of the facts. If you have looked at my blogs then you are blatantly lying because the evidence speaks for itself, yet you say there is no evidence against him, it is all rubbish! You continue to peddle the myth I am mentally ill because I was ill fourteen years ago, you think that you can use old mental health issues against me now. I have never hidden that fact I had post partum depression after the birth of my daughter so I don't know why you think parading that will help your cause. I am mentally ill for asking the above questions, for looking at Warren's claims properly? You say I am mentally ill because I have researched and challenged the bold and ever changing statements of a public figure! Well I contest that you are mentally ill for supporting and promoting someone you admit you don't know personally, you just meet at conferences, without looking at the evidence! I could say you are mentally ill for calling me mentally ill when you have had no medical and psychological training whatsoever, you are not qualified to call me any such thing! You got involved in this situation voluntarily then started to cry about people speaking badly of you. Don't throw yourself under a bus and then scream you were run over on purpose. It's just not normal behaviour from a 'professional researcher' and ex police officer Gary.
Now lets see if you can respond to this without talking about me at all, without once speculating about my mental health. Try talking about the things I have mentioned here because currently this is all you have bunny boiled it down to, which is pretty weak in light of all the things I have mentioned in this blog and the many others I have written before.
A Fatal Attraction Thing (for those of you who don't know what that means)
Seeing as I am held responsible for the words and actions of people hundreds of miles away from me on the internet, I have decided to hold you directly resposible for all of these statements because that's fair isn't it? That's logical.
Trying to incite violence and hatred towards me
Telling people I/we need to be murdered
This was the post that had him banned from the Glasgow conference. See this blog, These supporters of Warren are now supporters of me. SPI Conference Drama Blog
This was posted on a thread of Ronnie Dugdale, it was a video of his daughter playing in her band. Many of the schools parents were tagged in the thread and saw this. Peter Robbins had commented positively and so Warren flipped.
