Wednesday, 10 May 2017

Larry Warren's Military Records are Definitely Tampered With. Facts to follow on the HPANWO show with Ben Emlyn-Jones & Warren 11th May 2017.



Due to the many inconsistencies of Larry Warren, we decided the best way to end the controversy would be to have his documents analysed. We had several hope-filled times where it seemed the analysis was being done, waiting patiently for the final result, only to be told weeks later that they couldn't/wouldn't do it.

One analyst said no thank you, Larry Warren is a very dangerous man. I fear for the safety of my staff, myself and the reputation of my firm. Another said we will only work from the original documents, but he also stated that just glancing over them there were definitely concerns and these warranted investigation. Another lady said yes I'll do it then four weeks later stated she couldn't, she was too ill and we were back at square one again. 

Warren point blank refuses to show them or have them looked at, yet states he has the originals and they do not match the ones in his book or on the net, which is where they have been without complaint up until recently. 

It doesn't really matter in the end. This week in one of Warren's insanity rants he stated the documents HAVE been tampered with. He then says that Peter had them for years. Now this is the fascinating bit. IF Peter has tampered with Warren's documents, he has managed to emulate Warren's writing! While they were partners, Peter set him up? 

Okay, these documents we have, they are from Warren's book. They match exactly. Now I think he is talking about the Echols medical sheet in his rant. The copy I have was in Georgina Bruni's collection and is the original with tippex. In the book the document is exactly the same only you can't see the tippex. 

He also stated this week that I had somehow fabricated Adrian Bustinza's comments made to John Burroughs on his post in a group about the Rendlesham CNN documentary. I am not a member of that group and therefore cannot post in it. but somehow I have managed to. Or maybe I am in league with John Burroughs..... Maybe the fact is quite simply, Larry Warren is a liar. 

Screenshots of the conversation were sent to me and somehow Warren is going to prove I altered Adrian's words and also his comments on the radio show. I embedded the show on my blog, Left Out At East Gate, the upload is not mine. I haven't downloaded it, edited it, re-uploaded it. That would be a copyright infringement besides everything else. 

So according to Warren I faked all his photos, faked his artwork, stole it, sold it in an auction he sold items in too, yet he got all the other items sent back to him from the same auction lot and sold items in the same auction I managed to sell a painting I stole from him in too in 2013? I tampered with the A10 photo too, I messed with all his stuff. Okay lets look at what that is saying then.

All of his evidence and items are all tampered with, altered, fake, stolen. He is an innocent man. We all set him up while we were still friends and supporting him rabidly. That makes complete sense if you are a total moron. I am a thief, a drug addict, a child abuser, an ex mental patient, mentally ill housewife who's mum locked her up for a year because she didn't know what to do with her. I am a forger, All total lies.

He states I have never had an experience in my life, never seen a UFO, never helped anyone, I just destroy lives. He has a problem with my tits and teeth for some reason, says I love him and this is all over that. Said he was telling myself and partner off for us taking drugs in front of the children in our filthy hovel and that is why he left. The opposite is true. Dave kicked him out for his constant atrocious behaviour caused by drinking and cocaine. 

He also makes out my daughter is some sicko slut, looking at porn and pictures of dead boys while in the room with him one night and was showing him this. Definitely the other way around. I could say more but haven't. 

So here is the latest set of screenshots;

SACHA DID IT








PETER DID IT

*Please note, I cannot see warren, he can't see me either. These screenshots were sent as is but they're damning enough*.










Well from the horse's mouth himself. It is all tampered with. That means he needs to start producing his evidence and military records to show the alterations. He states himself he has the originals. He needs to show everyone what he is talking about then. 

He is now attempting to make things look like I and others set him up, but in reality he is trying to turn his lies onto everyone else. He is setting me up. Now it looks like he is going to turn it on Peter too. 

Peter will be making a statement in due time. We have spoken since my blog . I understand how difficult this is for him, I went through the same thing. Only my aftershocks will not be as many or as deeply affecting as Peter's. He stood by him for just short of three decades. If I can understand his position right now, I hope you would stretch yourself to that open-mindedness too. 

So tomorrow, which will be Thursday May 11th 2017, Warren is being given another platform to lie by Ben Emlyn-Jones on HPANWO radio. He is going to state the FACTS. Please don't miss it, it might be the 'best worst'  broadcast in ufology, ever. A very public Swan Song. It's not a live show but there will be a chatroom. Good luck asking a reasonable question though!

LARRY WARREN RETURNS HPANWO SHOW 236

Also see

Open Letter to Peter robbins

Opened Lettuce to Sacha Christie & Co.

Update 14th May 2017

Today Mick Sayer (finder of the UFO in the A10 photo) found a very interesting bit of information.

Dr Echols definitely worked at Lakenheath, only he was an orthopedic Dr, NOT an Opthalmologist or Osteopathic!


UPDATE 16TH MAY 2017

Warren states that he has the originals, the same originals Peter had that he alludes to him having altered, This means that the original documents have been tampered with. The ones he has. So there was literally no point in continuing further.

Nigel Mortimer reared his head again, trying to make out I'd stolen the six hundred pounds raised for the analysis. Even Tony Topping, friend of twelve years chimed in about it. Tony was told to remove me from his life by Mortimer or he couldn't speak at the conference that never happened.

Tony sent me a freind request a little while ago, no message, no phone call. I deleted his request, I can't respect that. So now he is there telling Mortimer to look into things, making out I am a thief too. Personal friends since 2005 and he throws me away then acts like I've harmed him in some way! Shameful.








Everyone was given there money back within an hour of our decision. No one is going to get the names of those people, that's always been confidential. We have said publicly many times it has been returned, if that was a lie you can be sure people will have said so. Some of them are friends of Warren's, they would be the first to yelp about it. I never had any access to it anyway! 




Absolutely no reason for them to come up with any of this. It's just pointless noise making to make me look bad because all of the above is completely normal, rational behaviour obviously. Oh yeah and of course in the ten years we were friends and all the times i was single I never once wanted any kind of physical contact from him.

Nor did I move to Liverpool following him, I moved here to be with Dave. What I did say to him was that when i was weighing up the decision to uproot my family to a city I didn't know very well, was that at least I had one friend there. How wrong I was about that, but the move to be with Dave was the best move I've made in my life.

Believe the gossip, it is A LOT easier than using your brain and doing your homework isn't it? It also says everything about them and nothing about me. They're like giant nine year olds with Tourettes.





Sunday, 7 May 2017

Opened Lettuce to Sacha Christie & Co from Larry Warren and Ben Emlyn-Jones





On the first of May 2017, Larry Warren posted a status update on his Facebook profile page. The post was set to friends only and seeing as we don't really have any in common now it took five days to get to me. Why he didn't post it publicly is beyond me. But then so is everything else he does.

So five days after I posted my blog, Open Letter to Peter Robbins, I received Warren's 'opened lettuce' to me. It's mostly totally insane gibberish but a few things can be understood. All of it lies of course.

He accuses me amongst other things of falsifying Adrian Bustinza's comments on the radio show? Possibly the post I wrote a year ago entitled Left Out at East Gate? Maybe he means the comments he made in the Facebook CNN group where Adrian had a conversation with John Burroughs stating he didn't see Warren at all during the Rendlesham Forest Incidents? Maybe you can figure it out. Drop me a line if you do.

Good luck, here it is.


An opened Lettuce to Young, Christie, Dunlop and the lil fella Welsh.........i truly have better things to do in this short life that To have to publicly CORRECT you idiots once again...but correct you i will. i not on the very day of The truth confrence Both young and Christie took to the keyboard as per usuall and over welmed us with whatthey do oh so well............BS , distortion and Tears............Its a bitch when the buck stops folks eh! im just going to cover a few points today as these people ..and those that accept what they Type are simply after ATTENTION.............and will do ANYTHING to get it!..well folks you once again have mine..Christie, i Did NOT turn you into the benifits people...may i note YOU post every issiue in your life for ALL to read in your MANY FB accounts and Blogs..............i know you have made yourself some big enemeys over the last many years do to all the low end shit you create about folks.to include myself. you should know i, they , we see all of your posts and have them all in orig form.as you like to post.find you are totally wrong then re edit to suit..........your not fast enough......but no i did not report you to any one..your life is open to all.and ALL aint your cultists.Trust that. other things you wrote about me can wait, But clearly you know i dident just attend Basic training and then get kicked out of the USAF...does that work for your net cult of clowns.? silly girl....i suspect YOU also Falsafide the Bustinza interview in your FALSE quotes by him......not supprised that JB is also in on that....hes a silly boy. Young, Ive never encountered an EGO such as yours..you sir are a REAL FRAUD.........you pose in pictures with people of not in the subject and.as ive been told by one of your "friends" you also claim to manage them......your full of shit mate.......Lets talk about STOLEN tapes you are posting as owned by Dot Street........sir your are starting to anoy me.tell you friend in the suffolk PD please.....Question.has Peter Robbins Made you his uk spoksperson in the uk..........i think not...........Further YOU have Zero idea about our issiues........you dont like my book.great .i dont want you to like it , as its author does not like you. id one to one with you ANY day to discuss my views about you............as for putting your address out......i did not..........tho i do have it.Remember back when you started sniffing around the subject a few years back....you sent me Halts Woodbridge talk on CD......on it is not only your address but your phone aswell..Sad clown mate.......and like all folks of your ilk.you wont be around the subject very much longer.can ya feel your small world getting smaller?...Further, You and your Net stalkers are Actually banned from ANY Truth gigs.not you refusing to go......must be more BS dust for your net cult eh ? Lets talk about the Cese and Disist letter i sent to you and the other Three names listed in this post.......... Christie might wish to read this part too ? My Lawyer Did NOT dump me nor this ONGOING case.......YOU PEOPLE received a LETTER BEFORE ACTION ! and thats Just what i hired Him to do with just a few examples of all four of you "peoples" slander and defamation noted on them. The lawyer is also a friend of many years....had never seen folks act like you four did upon receipe of said letters......(you recall that Christie and others called the law office so often that the firm had to block you all.......and it was the firm that nearly made your actions a police action...thats the fact..and no , i did not seek nor did i receive legal aid........its my money that paid for the letters. your clearly not a dumb man.but your not very smart.the next step is the four of you defending your slander in court......i dont think you can.but if you all dont show....well thats contempt.good luck with that mate? Hey .you will see liverpool after all i guess ! lol,,,dont play me the fool folks.now one last thing...it was ME that asked Ben to post all four letters .minus Addresses......and no addresses were posted...my mistake and my brief gave me an earfull..in the state i can post them....lesson learned..happy i did it tho as you folks really do put alot of effort into painting yourselves a Lil Victems when the heat gets hot !..........Bless...........and to the wee lil fella in glasgow............i feel for you .your rather sad..........your other pal in the same town is the same....lil woman with a lap top........all of you are parasites and attach to well known folks whom have EARNED our place in this subject.............to me your a bunch of gypos.move in..........Dump shit.then move off or get run off.............so if you want to go at me i posted the letters.......folks know it, thus one less lie from your fightin fingers.........and have a very good day...and get of Bens back..................i dig a good brawl.ya up for it ? lol Larry warren.EX 81st SPS Ben Emlyn-Jones

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Heather Davies
Heather Davies Can't you get these two sad women for slander, Larry?

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David Trudel I long for the day when I understand WTH you are saying. 😝

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Heather Davies The Scott's are weird anyway

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Heather Davies The Scott's are weird anyway

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Lawrence Warren you wont live long enough Dave David Trudel lol
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David Moncoeur .....and I don't see where Scotts come into it.......
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Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson Mate even if you did (which knowing you personally I doubt very much) turn them in to the DHSS, then well done . Why should I and other tax payers fund your lifestyle? Get off your arse and work insted of comming liable on SM sites .

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Lawrence Warren Heather Davies its under way love, just takes time and money

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Heather Davies Fucking assholes they are 😳

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Dave Moore Good on you Larry....

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Lawrence Warren what i posted is FACT folks................Thank you and i will NEVER eat shit from sick fucks in ufology or life itself...............Real life pals of 50 plus years will confirm this,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,im not nor have i ever been in the beleive me biz...See more

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Barry Patrick Bower
Barry Patrick Bower Total respect all day long brother Lawrence Warren. Actions, (not words) earn respect and you have certainly earned yours, from the places you've been, people and clubs you've hung with, musicians and other friends along life's highway, the USAF, the RFI, raising such a fine son, I don't think you have anything to prove Brother. Haters will hate, most born out of jealousy. Just keep on keeping on Larry. MLH&R Bother.

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Lawrence Warren Words i will live by Barry Patrick Bower ML&R

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Ben Emlyn-Jones Cheers, Larry 8-)

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Nigel Mortimer Wonder what would happen if we all got together (plenty of us who have been effected now) with our own individual evidence against this mob and sent the whole lot to support Larry in his legal action against them. We should all turn up at court if they are called to a hearing and let the court see that these despicables have more to answer for than seems to be portrayed on an individual basis between themselves and LW. Of course this would be up to Larry, but I offer my full support and I know others would too. Time for these keyboard gangstalkers to leave the stage, so that we can all get on with our involvement in peace.

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Lawrence Warren They ARE going to court.............................in my life id save money and simply beat 3 points o shit out of ALL of them..............but i must live by the law of the land.......and will !.......................but must say ..others round this world have OTHER ideas..........................salave ! and those folks live by other laws !....yup, you can quote me......they fucked with the wrong New yorker for sure.............god help them REALLY !.........and these folks play it in ways that folks like us ..really cant dig............truly a gang of fuck ups.

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So let’s have a look at the few bits we can decipher.

"Christie, i Did NOT turn you into the benifits people...may i note YOU post every issiue in your life for ALL to read in your MANY FB accounts and Blogs"

He did ‘turn me in to the benefits people’.   Not only did the person repeat everything said in the post below, they also gave all of my childrens names and other personal information that only he knew. Very few people knew our address, now everybody knows it.  I don’t put all my personal information online but I have done recently, only after HE put all my personal information online.   The reasons I did that was to show you what a lying shit he is. 






" we see all of your posts and have them all in orig form.as you like to post.find you are totally wrong then re edit to suit..........your not fast enough......but no i did not report you to any one..your life is open to all.and ALL aint your cultists".  

He also openly admits to having people stalking my Facebook posts and saving them all, including the edits. Well it’s funny that he accuses me of doing that yet it took five days until this post of his got to me. He says I edit posts and change things but I am not fast enough. Fast enough for what? The posts are all set to ‘public’, all edits can be read by everyone. All you have to do is click edit history... !!

I hide nothing.  So an admission he has people stalking my pages and saving all of my posts. Yet he screams like a bitch that I am doing the same.  I think that has been debunked with the five day delay don’t you? 

"It is in the best interests of himself and the United States Air Force". Honourable discharge? !


He then say’s he didn’t get kicked out just after basic training. Erm.. Yes he did. He landed in the UK for the first time on the 1st of December 1980 and finished his basic training there.  He was thrown out the following May.  He calls himself an ex veteran. Forgive me if I am wrong but you are not a veteran after less than a year in service and have done nothing but cause so much grief the Air force are glad to see the back of you.  There are laws against exaggerating your service. 

" silly girl....i suspect YOU also Falsafide the Bustinza interview in your FALSE quotes by him......not supprised that JB is also in on that....hes a silly boy".

This is my favourite part. He accuses me, a silly girl aged 46, of falsifying  the Adrian Bustinza and falsified quotes from him. This is literally impossible.  When Warren lived with us he was constantly asking me if I had heard the show. I hadn’t.  It was then uploaded onto YouTube and I listened to it after Warren was kicked out of our home. HOW can I falsify/alter/edit that? The link on my blog goes straight to the channel of the person who uploaded it. I haven’t uploaded it, it is embedded. 

I couldn’t have altered or falsified any comments he made either. He made them to John Burroughs in the CNN documentary group.   A group I am not a member of. I was sent them by someone the following day. This is a perfect example of what he has done all along. When i present something someone else has put out into the public domain he says I have done something to it to set him up.
Quite clearly the complete opposite is true.  He has accused me of falsifying and tampering with absolutely everything.  He says I faked his photos, god knows how, HE uploaded them onto Facebook.   What he is trying to do is set ME up to make it look like I set him up.   

The only comfort I can take from that is that in doing so, he is saying that he knows full well all of his evidence is tampered with and he needs me to be blamed for it.  Even though absolutely everything I have said is repeated.  

It’s all available on the net, including his auction sales history.  Once you know how to look, you find him everywhere.  All said in various books, magazines, emails that are online, Warrens own Facebook posts and rants.   It’s all already out there.  I am just finding all his lies and showing you his several versions of them.   

Read You Can’t Tell The People by Georgina Bruni.  That is the absolute truth of him and that book was written almost two decades ago.  Check UFO-Updates for the emails from Kevin Randles and James Easton and the uploads of Hot Gossip Magazine which was Georgina's publication.  These issues go right back to day one of him opening his mouth.  

"Lets talk about the Cese and Disist letter i sent to you and the other Three names listed in this post.......... Christie might wish to read this part too ? My Lawyer Did NOT dump me nor this ONGOING case.......YOU PEOPLE received a LETTER BEFORE ACTION ! and thats Just what i hired Him to do with just a few examples of all four of you "peoples" slander and defamation noted on them. The lawyer is also a friend of many years....had never seen folks act like you four did upon receipe of said letters......(you recall that Christie and others called the law office so often that the firm had to block you all.......and it was the firm that nearly made your actions a police action...thats the fact..and no , i did not seek nor did i receive legal aid........its my money that paid for the letters. your clearly not a dumb man.but your not very smart.the next step is the four of you defending your slander in court......i dont think you can.but if you all dont show....well thats contempt.good luck with that mate"?
Bring it on.

He then starts going on about court again.  He is taking me to court to prove I tampered with his online information and activities just as he is claiming I tampered with Adrian’s words.  His solicitor asked us all for responses. We gave him a response and then we asked him a couple of questions.  His time is money and warren would have had to pay for all of it. 

In reality he wanted us to be silenced and spent money on doing so with threats of court for slander... LIBEL he means.  Only the truth is never libel.  I am still waiting to hear from the court, we all are and we are all happy to attend.  More than happy actually, the prospect excites us.  In fact we actually wish he would hurry up and get on with it.  He see’s swerving having his documents looked at as a victory.  For free too... He would rather spend money trying to silence us using lies than he would prove his documents are not tampered with.

"to me your a bunch of gypos.move in..........Dump shit.then move off or get run off.............so if you want to go at me i posted the letters.......folks know it, thus one less lie from your fightin fingers.........and have a very good day...and get of Bens back..................i dig a good brawl.ya up for it ? lol Larry warren.EX 81st SPS Ben Emlyn-Jones"

This bit he is calling us a bunch of ‘gypo's’ which means gypsy and is a racist comment because he is using it as a derogatory term.  He is also saying he will run us off or fight us in a brawl.  This is the man a few breaths earlier says he is taking us to court.  This is definitely the behaviour of a man preparing himself to look squeaky clean in front of a judge as he pleads my insanity.

"So you're honor, I told the silly little girl I'd put her windpipe through her spine and end her life and she wouldn't shut the fuck up, so I decided top get a gang of useful idiots to trash her, put her private mail online, threaten her life, she won't shut up so I need you to believe that that reflection of me is her and we are good to go".

I am not obsessed, I am thorough in my collation of his own words and epic man fails by the man himself all throughout his career.   Something he wants to use to make me look like some sad woman, but it is to detract from the fact that I know him well, he lived in our home and he was my friend willingly for ten whole years.  He also refers to me as a silly little girl, Alyson and I are lil’ women and we say he is a sexist, out of date, egotistical, racist, misogynistic bully.

If the truth is cultish then we are a cult.  If it means something else then no we are not a cult. We are ex supporters who stuck our necks out for him many times and not in minor ways either.   

Also the get off Ben's back bit is pure hilarity after his 12 blogs five radio shows and endless whimpering.  I am not on his back he is on mine, with Warren and the gang of merry meat heads.